WRC Rally Sweden 2020

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15th February 2020, 10:52
Katvala

Not many changes in position in this one! https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0d6339ad92.jpg https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...3caa39dc9a.jpg

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15th February 2020, 10:57
Tarmop

Hold your horses. Now comes the interesting part: opening the road and copeing with Toyota tech. issues ( demonstrated by Latvala's car already).
15th February 2020, 11:00
andyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

im gonna make a early predicton too now(like many here)

Evans will be champion this year, i havent seen something as impressive as this in a long time. i can see him getting even faster as the season progresses

I agree with you. And Evans hasnt been a crashing person. His speed.is not normal. He is good

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15th February 2020, 11:02
andyone

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

when you 4 yrs in a row must use handbrake to make car turn into a corner - that's something wrong with a car. Tanak knew it but change a team anyway

He just ditched his second championship win the minute he did that decision

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15th February 2020, 11:07
mknight

I'll write it again:
9 out of 13 rounds are on gravel
7 out of these are on "rough" gravel.

On rough gravel Hyundai wasn't far off Toyota most of last year (certainly not in second half of the year). We haven't yet seen a single round on it this year.
15th February 2020, 11:09
dimviii

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EQ0E22UW...pg&name=medium

http://ir7.at/content/fotos_bestof_w...eden_2020.html
15th February 2020, 11:15
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by COD

Shaming the official Hyundai wrc3 drivers

Maybe you have say wrc2 drivers? Huttunen only one at Hyundai in WRC3
15th February 2020, 11:18
GigiGalliNo1

Sunday to only run with ONE stage...
15th February 2020, 11:20
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Sunday to only run with ONE stage...

Sunday and TWO stages doesn't sound so well too. So at least one stage it's good.
15th February 2020, 11:21
stefanvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Yeah. He has been all over the place but fast.

Leans on the non-existing snowbanks.
15th February 2020, 11:22
tommeke_B

Another question is if they'll let all drivers run that stage tomorrow... Maybe they'll cancel it after WRC and WRC2 drivers as the road could be completely destroyed.
15th February 2020, 11:36
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by tommeke_B

Another question is if they'll let all drivers run that stage tomorrow... Maybe they'll cancel it after WRC and WRC2 drivers as the road could be completely destroyed.

IMHO they didn't care about other who not showing on TV. It must be good for top RC2 and all WRC, other - didn't care if they stuck in mud or not
15th February 2020, 12:41
COD

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

Maybe you have say wrc2 drivers? Huttunen only one at Hyundai in WRC3

Yes, my mistake. Stupid two championships for similar cars
15th February 2020, 12:47
AnttiL

Has a Hyundai ever before led the RC2 category in a WRC event?
15th February 2020, 13:17
BigWorm

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Has a Hyundai ever before led the RC2 category in a WRC event?

Don't think so although Abbring's pace when it was brand new was decent. It seems to be much better now.
15th February 2020, 13:19
the sniper

Got to say that Emil Lindholm comes across very well as a personality, English language media wise. Shame this sport doesn't make the most of such people.

'Studio Torsby' was worth watching on All Live, nice stuff.
15th February 2020, 13:21
EstWRC

haha this stage looks exactly like wales
15th February 2020, 13:25
KKS

Power stage has same road condition as this Torsby sprint stage? It's horrible
15th February 2020, 13:31
krissucool

Erm, All live working for you?
15th February 2020, 13:31
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by krissucool

Erm, All live working for you?

yep
15th February 2020, 13:36
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

Power stage has same road condition as this Torsby sprint stage? It's horrible

Have you been there today?
15th February 2020, 13:37
EstWRC

Ogier again shaking his head

ive noticed he is using like only his left hand mostly when steering? anyone else?
15th February 2020, 13:38
Fast Eddie WRC

Horrible ugly stage with no snow or ice. Not the pictures this rally wants to be sending out...
15th February 2020, 13:40
EstWRC

Kalle fell behind Ogier again, for sure he wont be allowed to push tomorrow?
15th February 2020, 13:42
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by stefanvv

Leans on the non-existing snowbanks.

Had there been snowbanks he´d been stuck on last stage...
15th February 2020, 13:42
KKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rallyper

Have you been there today?

it's a short fun stage so really not matter what condition they are. But if PS has same - it's horrible. Before the rally we expect even snow on Sunday, but now forecast +7 and rain
15th February 2020, 13:47
Rallyper

Quote:

Originally Posted by KKS

it's a short fun stage so really not matter what condition they are. But if PS has same - it's horrible. Before the rally we expect even snow on Sunday, but now forecast +7 and rain

Aaahh. Didn´t see you were asking...

No Likenäs should be more icy and better condition, if it´s not melting away coming night.
15th February 2020, 14:03
Tauri_J

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

ive noticed he is using like only his left hand mostly when steering? anyone else?

It has been always like this. Maybe to use handbrake instantly when needed
15th February 2020, 14:06
KKS

Fourmaux didn't start at his minute
15th February 2020, 14:18
EstWRC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tauri_J

It has been always like this. Maybe to use handbrake instantly when needed

Ok thanks. I’ve never noticed it so much
15th February 2020, 14:25
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Has a Hyundai ever before led the RC2 category in a WRC event?

The R5 class seems really competitive here, both in terms of drivers and cars. The Hyundai, Skoda, Citroen and VW all seem on a good level now.
15th February 2020, 14:54
TanaKa

Evans is cooking a Rally jamie oliver ,, exquisite,nobody put him in that position
15th February 2020, 15:11
EstWRC

Järveoja is saying that tomorrow will be the biggest challenge

Of course depending on how much damage the overnight rain does
15th February 2020, 15:17
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tauri_J

It has been always like this. Maybe to use handbrake instantly when needed

No, it's to keep the right hand at the gearshifter. I think Tänak does the same, shifting the position on the wheel on longer bends in order to be able to shift quickly.
15th February 2020, 15:24
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

haha this stage looks exactly like wales

If Wales Rally GB looked like this people would complain it looks weird because it's so dry and not muddy.
15th February 2020, 15:25
AnttiL

Quote:

Originally Posted by EstWRC

Järveoja is saying that tomorrow will be the biggest challenge

Of course depending on how much damage the overnight rain does

Looking bad really, heavy rain and lots of plus degrees, without going to minus in between. Still, I don't believe they would cancel it at this point.
15th February 2020, 15:33
the sniper

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnttiL

Still, I don't believe they would cancel it at this point.

Me either. Not with it being the Powerstage. It'll be what it'll be. Wouldn't surprise me if they stop it before the JWRC come through though, if it's bad.
15th February 2020, 15:39
mknight

Likenas has always been a terrible stage for Hyundai. So unless it changes into safari-rally style they might end with just one car in top 5 in the stage.
15th February 2020, 15:43
Old Rally Fan

Hello to everyone. I am "new" on this forum. As my nickname suggests, I was deeply interested in WRC, that was the "old epoch", second half of 90s, early 2000s. Than I lost a bit sight of WRC (but not completely, I know who has won champ titles during the last several years). And now I try to back to old passion. I found this phantastic forum. Could you answer, from time to time, some questions from me? I try to realize, what's happening now in this business. And here comes my first question: is there any explanation, why in the previous season Hyundai was - as it was said in one post - usually slower than Toyota on the first run of stages, but faster during the repetition? What is the explanation for this regularity (if it was regularity)? Thanks!
15th February 2020, 15:57
mknight

Welcome to the forum.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Rally Fan

is there any explanation, why in the previous season Hyundai was - as it was said in one post - usually slower than Toyota on the first run of stages, but faster during the repetition? What is the explanation for this regularity (if it was regularity)? Thanks!

Obviously we don't know and we don't have detailed telemetry or other info so we can just speculate.
In general I'd say there are two main theories:
- Yaris is "softer" and hugs the road better, so when surface is smooth it can stay low and hug the surface which together with better aero makes it faster, Hyundai is much more stable and suspension absorbs rough surface better so drivers can push harder in rough conditions without getting thrown around.
- I20 seems harder to set-up and small changes seem to do a lot (until they changed damper supplier last year they also had like 50 dampers to choose from), so after first pass they can analyze the setup and tweak it better for second runs

How much any of these is correct is hard to tell, might be it's for some other reason completely. But it's a fact that Hyundais do better on second runs (especially on gravel) and on rougher stages compared with Toyota.

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