Oliver Solberg rolled in SS21
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Oliver Solberg rolled in SS21
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Paddon also had a very slow time on the power stage, not that it would make any difference, but still...
Solans win rally and championship in JWRC
Solans stronger in the end. Thought this was Kristenssons year. Looked like it, but he was one puncture from victory I believe.
Brilliant stuff! Hat off for Tanak and also for Neuville and Ogier; it’s now almost impossible for them to beat Tanak in the WDC, but we can still hope for two more rallys as exciting to follow as this one.
Btw, congrats to Rovanpera and Solans as well to their codrivers and teams.
Or Australia. But he can do it with just PS points now, and he should. WDC is practically over. Let's see what Toyota can do against Hyundai. In Spain the later will be very strong.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Really? Toyota just took a 1-2-3 in Germany so they should be the fastest tarmac car. Last year both Latvala and Tänak had winning pace and Meeke is the 2017 event winner.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
2 points MORE than Ogier, not just 2 points.. 60p on the table and 28p gap with Ogier. Ofcourse the situations looks good for Ott, but nothing aint over.. One ,,rally Turkey'' and no gap anymore.
Yeah, I stand corrected. Indeed more than Ogier.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Sorry for the confusion, I meant their driver options for Sordo and Loeb should be stronger than Latvala and Meeke for Toyota, but how the car will perform is another matter of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
It's not really over until the fat lady sings. Nothing is decided yet.
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It's not over when it's over... it's especially true when you driving a Toyota.
Math - at the moment, if Ogier takes everything from table (30+30), then Tänak need to collect 32 points more. Basically it means 2 more podiums or 4-5th with really good PS points. Current situation is good, but it's not an easy task.
All Tänak needs is to be one position ahead of Ogier, in both the overall standings and the power stage (or a variation depending on the positions)Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
It's not All, there is still Neuville and mathematics.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Is there available any transcript or video from press-conference?
Based on Estonian media Tänak made statement there to Ogier and Neuville: (translated from translation..):
"I don't have anything against you but I want that we play fair game, not political one. We got penalties in Argentina for the same thing, here there weren't any penalties. Let's agree, do we play by the rules or not."
https://www.facebook.com/PostimeesSp...214310126/?t=3Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
In Argentina the roadbook actually said that you should go over the bridge/gate and it was marked as such. I argued about it a bit but then the roadbook was shown and there was nothing to argue with. Going on the right of it even though it was open meant you didn't cross the marked "bridge".
Here as also listed in stewards decision roadbook showed 3 hay bales and how to go trough them and when they came they were 4 with 2 possible ways to go trough.
It's 4 mins from the end. Tanak says "we followed roadbook". After that Ogier jumps in and says "we followed roadbook" and goes to blame the organizers. Tanak says Argentina roadbook also wasn't clear (I disagree tbh).Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
Neuville says it was "simple" and that he braked already and that there should have been only 1 bale.
1692/5000
"It is naturally a mixed feeling at the arrival of this rally.On one hand, I am very satisfied with our performance this weekend.We realized a rally without fault, being at the limit of the beginning to the The disappointment is of course present because we could not get ahead of Tanak.He made a great rally.It was fast, especially Friday afternoon when we did not have the best tires on the car. lost about 8.6 seconds, more or less what is missing in the final count.We did the job at 100 %.Today, the team asked to be in the finish for the points in the constructors' classification. also take into account this, it explains in part the 5th place in the Power Stage, in which we saw that Tanak could still put a layer .. When you have Neuville and Ogier in the ass and you can still put a layer to the end, it is that the package is efficient.It used it well.The pilot title is not finished, there is still 60 points to take, "detailed Neuville at our microphone.
"I'm still very happy, it was a very long rally, very complicated, we were on the edge of the razor from start to finish, it was very intense, without making mistakes and by doing very well. On the other hand, I am very satisfied with sport, of course not the operation we wanted to achieve at the championship level, we had a lack of success so I am very happy to be back on the podium today. The Toyota with Tanak at the wheel seems daunting, we could not do anything.When we gave everything, what can we do more? We must sometimes be satisfied, "he said Nicolas Gilsoul, co-pilot of the Belgian pilot.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...hSsRDks6Hjh0SY
"We've been to the full from the beginning to the end, I made a small mistake in the first night special, then I came back strong, we had to push hard, I'm very happy ... but there are still two Disasters can happen, but you have to be careful You know me, I will give everything I have in Catalonia and Australia The car works well But it's sport, anything can happen explained the championship leader at our microphone.
"In my eyes, it was the most intense week-end, a big fight with such short gaps, it was crazy, Thierry was very fast on Saturday, but I tried to stay regular. it's a mythical event, I wanted to put my name on it, "concluded Tanak.
https://www.rtbf.be/sport/moteurs/ra...YCSZfgEQOJ7Mpo
Apparently turbo hose came off.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
This years event has been a shambles, the MSA should be ashamed. The lack of advertising compared to previous years very noticable, I'm certain some car parks were smaller this year, could be wrong on that. The sea around the orme looked no worse than previous years if I'm honest. The price increase, I haven't for weeks been able to purchase tickets via my mobile only laptop, useless if you're buying them on the move as I normally do as work dictates when I can go during the event.
Oulton park by all accounts was poorly thought out, couldn't see much in the dark. The whole point of these stages is all people can see as much of the action as possible surely? Attracting new fans who don't want to venture into the woods. Super saturday, how so? Impossible for most to see all the action on one stage and make it to Colwyn Bay in time, so why the added premium?
All in all, this event has been run down in order to make their excuses and chase more cash in Northern Ireland, as a Welsh tax payer and should any such move happen I'll be pleading with my government rep to chase the MSA for this years sponsorship money! Moving away from major populated areas to somewhere even more remote. The first year will be a success as it's something new after that I can't see it. Crossing the Irish sea via ferry in the autumn months could go either way at the drop of a hat depending on the wind.
If they were honest about a move and did a proper job fair enough. Always one step forward two steps back.
Neuville must learn, how to be fast at first stages at Friday
Almost always he starts average,and upping his pace at next stages,sometimes at Saturday.
Against Tanak, you dont have a chance like that.
something totally opposite is Meeke.He starts fast,and fading as the rally progress.
Of course it is not over...but now Ott in Spain has the luxury to just drive and watch what Ogier and Neuville are doing and set his pace according to them, while Ogier and Neuville (especially) have to go flat out to get maximum points.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Ogier sounds quite frustrated in an interview to estonian media. Says he gave absolutely everything on power stage, drove like a madman and if he would have driven the same way all the other days he would have crashed, but in the end Ott was still faster than him.
Let's face it: the game's over. There's no stopping Tänak. He won't screw it himself, and not even the Yaris would fail him in two consecutive rallies.
Too early... has happened before.
Who knows, a retirement is possible in Catalunya, and if Ogier gets maximum points, they're almost even going to Australia. Unlikely, but I'm not calling it finished just yet. Neuville however I wouldn't consider a candidate anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
It's unlikely though
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I actually think this is a Hyundai issue, for last 2 years it's quite common occurrence that they are not on pace on friday morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
This year (just like last year), both Neuville and Mikkelsen were complaining about the car on first loop on friday, and Mikkelsen lost basically all his 20s to Meeke during those few stages. (On top of that Neuville lost time in the evening stage where it was starting to get dark.). The explanation was that they didn't have wet (enough) conditions in the test, but as I said this repeats all the time.
Setup is one thing, car itself is another. Hyundai and Citroen have lagged behind Toyota on "smooth/slippery" first passes on just about all rallies, easiest comparison with GB is Chile. Basically whole GB was relatively smooth and slippery so in that sense they were much closer than before.
I think it's now more a matter of when rather than if Tanak wins the championship, hands down he has been the best driver of the three winning six events! Neuville hasn't won since Argentina back in April...and even a podium is distant memory back in Portugal in May, was he asleep this entire time? he can't be serious about a championship contention and only now waking up seeing it's too little, too late....and a good word for Mikkelsen, yes he has lost the battle to Evans, but for someone who hasn't done all rounds this year and still remain 4th in the championship is a step-up for him (& luckily for Hyundai) after 2018.
As for Ogier, I bet he's cursing the moment he signed for Citroen, it's the C3's third year and even with Sebastien, they still haven't found a solution to make that car work in all conditions...to win a championship you have to have the entire package, Ogier knows this and does seem really frustrated, I mean, he pushed like hell in the power stage and still Tanak was 0.5 second faster (and that's before I've mentioned Lappi....who hasn't delivered this weekend..and hasn't taken almost any points from Ogier's rivals)....
If you look at where they stand now (points wise) compared to last year, you'll actually see there's not a huge difference for Ogier & Neuville, however what makes Ott stand out is the fact that he and that Yaris are in perfect tune like Ogier himself was back in the Polo, and Loeb with the Xsara,C4,& DS3...and if Citroen don't pick up the glove next year then they can call it quits.
The most intriguing (IMHO) battle left to play out for the season is the Manu. title. I really hope to see Hyundai win it, because I don't want to see them leave (and Adamo with them).
Again, this is just how I see it, I totally understand if some of you may not agree, hopefully I'm wrong and we'll see this title fight go down to the wire down under (between Ogier & Tanak)...anyhow, we'll be wiser in three weeks time, as someone mentioned before, Tanak only need 2 points more than Ogier to clinch his first WDC.
If Citroen kept same tarmac pace as they had last year Ogier would actually have a really good shot at the title even with not perfect gravel pace. In Corsica he got saved by a miracle but still 2nd place is much worse pointwise than first now (8 points difference) and Germany was just tragic. If they make the car work on tarmac I think he will be in really good position next year and if they make it work now in Catalunya he still has decent chance this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Yes but they said it themselves at some point in the season ( I think Germany), that they gained the pace on gravel by losing it on tarmac...but now coming to think of it, next year only has two proper tarmac rounds (Monte is kind of special) so...maybe they should continue working on gravel...with that said I hope they will find some solution in Catalunya or Sebastien can say goodbye to his crown....again time will tell....Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Q:Quote:
Originally Posted by Entertainer
That Power Stage looked like a wild ride…
OT:
Maybe it was not perfect. It was raining quite heavily at the beginning, the grip was low and I had to get some support from the road side. Maybe it was a bit Sweden-spec, but in the end, it paid the bill and we’re happy.
:D
Q:
What do you mean, you didn’t get the tyres you asked for?
TN:
We ended up more soft than we asked for, obviously there was an internal mistake, which can happen. It shouldn’t but it can. We took three soft and two medium and we wanted to take four soft and one medium. We lost 11 more points to Ott. But we can see that now that Toyota has changed the rear wing, we are much closer again – they are not flying again like they were before and we are happy with that.
Q:
Tommi, you’ve closed the gap to Hyundai, how do you feel?
TM: It was a really great result. Great work during the whole weekend under big pressure. With this event is coming bigger pressure, two more rallies to go [in the] fight for the title and it’s great performance. I would say no mistakes at all… plus also that we have this new rear wing which doesn’t allow us to fly away anymore and still he was very performing very well – an even better performance from Ott.
so it seems the new wing has actually reduced the performance then as i understand
rest of the interesting press conference here https://www.fia.com/news/wrc-o-tanak...it-sweden-spec
E: and theres a video of it too https://www.facebook.com/PostimeesSp...214310126/?t=3
So the rear wing change was a downgrade? That is really interesting, does anyone know something more about this?
There also can be "mindgames" attempt from Neuville and answer to that with sarcasm from Mäkinen.
Don't jinx! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Allez Andruet
I think too but he's never been good at it. He should just stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
A Excellent weekend in Wales :D
For me it's better than Finland. The welsh are great host, the landscape is wonderfull and mud is better than dust :)
https://youtu.be/GMbQ1Bmp314
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The original wing was homologated but an error was recently noticed in its shape and positioning.Quote:
Originally Posted by flykas
It was changed at Rally Turkey to make it closer to the rear of the car and follow the bodywork. It now complies with the rules.
I was surprised it took until now for it to be mentioned by the other teams/drivers as it did advantage Toyota for a long time (even though it was legal & homologated).
This is how I interpret it from the transcription but I should look at the video as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh
Great video! We've stood right next to each other! :D I'm up on the bank at 0:20. We stood next to each other there when you came up there later, I tried to keep out of your way as I guessed from the camera and where you'd stood that you'd be one of the quality You Tube guys! :D I was also on the apex of the corner on Brenig shown at 0:54, just out of sight to the right. I know I've done my research well when I end up in the best videos. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Devillersvideo
I'll probably add some more comments later in the week as I've got to go to work, not a perfect event organisationally, but I had a great time. The weather conditions were great for the rally and not too unkind to us spectators. Sorry to be back to normal life now! Oh and just to add to Tanak's Q&A above, on the Powerstage, the rain really did come down just for him, at least where we were near the start of the stage. I think he must have had the most slippery conditions of all the top guys.