When you see Colin Clark annoying spectators in the service park for some reactions, rather than showing the WRC2 cars going through the final stage, you know it's time to shut it off...
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When you see Colin Clark annoying spectators in the service park for some reactions, rather than showing the WRC2 cars going through the final stage, you know it's time to shut it off...
Why is Petter Solberg not in view more often? I mean, come on. We got Loeb, Solberg in a brand new car and even Block driving around. They didn't even show Block's crash on day 1, and there's no trace of Solberg (or any WRC2 car for that matter) on re-live. Why not? What were they thinking?
Why that camera pointing to the wheel of Suninen? What's the point? lol
Why the hell are we seeing a rotating map and not analysis from the studio, a prerecorded interview, WRC2 coverage, highlights from earlier in the rally, older editions of rally Spain, live stream from the service park, or even video of kittens playing with yarn?
The FIA bans a lot of things. They should ban that freaking map.
Just watched all of today's coverage, loving All Live, but...
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All three main categories were separated by under 10 seconds at the end of this rally and they were changing throughout.
Not to mention, it's hard enough for young drivers to get backing and sponsors these days, at least let them have some screen time. Solans v Franceschi in R2 not mentioned once and hardly any mention today of the other Solans' efforts to topple the Skodas.
Get these guys some screen time if you want to enhance the value of your championship to them, to the manufacturers involved and to your audience; take a look at how it's done in endurance racing.
so you want coverage of a dead category where competition is crap because we had some wildcards on one event...Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
welsh people... it cannot get any worse.
Well,WRC is run by Red Bull. They aren't going to give much air time to people sponsored by a competitor(Monster Energy)...Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
On a positive note about the coverage, Abi Stephens is a gem of a lead presenter. Molly is great alongside her. Julian too.
Come to think of it, is there any other sport with two female presenters who are this good? I'm a male chauvinist pig and even I'm impressed.
I quite enjoyed the coverage apart from the usual stages with Desborough.
Becs and Julian are decent and at least have some pauses let us hear the cars, and co-drivers during on-boards.
Yeah coverage is good. Maybe it could be better when they try to go technical. Sometimes they overreact to facts or understimate others. But overall it's nice. Me too I like the ladies and Julian Porter especially.
Hard to agree; still missing the initial blond and still thinking Molly would be great for the job. Btw, nice effort to get non Brits stage commenters (Ostberg and Guerra this time); hope it’ll be continued. Chopper and fixed cameras kept providing state of the art footage; it’s just a pitty having so little WRC2 time, like most have already mentioned. Overall, first year valuation seems quite positive.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
But I hate her voice so much...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
Other than that, I like it a lot. Yes there are a few improvements possible, but still happy to be subscribed :)
Porter is worst for me - His "Know-it-all" comments pisses me off when most of the time he is talking absolute shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Also Colin Clark is horrible at stage end interviews he just seems to push negative things onto drivers "You're 2 secs slower than X driver what's the problem?" "That stage time is not good, what's wrong?" What does he think the drivers will answer to that - Just ask "how was the stage".
Like with when Ott had his puncture I think it was Molly who asked him "How do you feel now after losing 2minutes?" does she actually wait for the driver to answer something analytic? Of course they will either answer something sarcastic like "I'm very happy" or just drive away.
how to make AllLive better: Show more WRC2 and even Jwrc/WRC3 (even highlights if not live) Now all we have is 1min highlight per day which "covers" the top-3, skip the fking GPS map and show highlights instead from the previous stage/day/rally/year, stop with the negative stage end interviews and if the driver faces problems it's even better to just let them sit there quietly if they don't feel like speaking than just asking "you must be dissapointed?", Times on the screen should be stage times not overall results - commentators can then speak how the stage time of driver x might change the standings in overall classification. Have more guest commentators - both Mads and Benito did a great job with that.
Obviously that extra question (he already said a bit) was completely unnecessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Basically for whole 2018 it seems to me like there is some bad chemistry between Molly and Tanak. He sounds even more annoyed than usual when talking to her and she often asks him "trigger/stupid" questions that she doesn't ask other drivers
True. Remember Wales with "where did you get the puncture?" "In the stage!"Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
It also seems Ott has been more frustrated-sarcastic in his stage end interviews this year. Usually he looks at the interviewer in a way which says "why do you keep asking these stupid things".
I think the point here is that the drivers don't know the times yet when they arrive at the interview point. Clark also often praises drivers when they have made a great time. He's quite emotional and enthusiastic. It's his persona and role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
Not sure it was wales, but I do remember at least 2 moments like this and also that it was Molly and Tanak. Something there isn't working.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Still wont change the fact that it's negative. He always seems to assume that time loss, even a small one is a bad thing. Some drivers might have been happy with their run, given their all on the stage and still the first thing they hear after crossing the finish line is "OOOH You seem to lose a lot of time to driver X here, what happened?" even thought the gap might have been just few seconds.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
And as you mentioned drivers don't even know how they compare to others at that point, still they hear that kind of negativity even they might have only lost a sec or a two.
Well, only asking "how was the stage" everytime sounds quite boring and you will expect normal answer. He is a journalist and tries to make the driver say something interesting with that. I don't blame him for that behaviour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
As for Molly and Tanak I agree though, asking "how disappointed are you" in the stage where he lost his championship is not the smartest question possible.
Why is negative/bad thing. Every driver responds what has happened in the stage, more or less, how he feels the car, etc, things that might be interesting for the spectators. Even they're happy with their driving, something still might not be quite right with the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Essaj
It does but there could be some variables with their questions. It's either "WOW AMAZING TIME" or "YOU LOST TIME IS EVERYTHING OKAY?!?" dno if that's really that much more interesting. For me it's annoying.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
I don't know how to do it but those stage end questions could be a big improvement to whole WRC All Live concept.
Because how I see it, it's almost always the same thing when Colin is at the stage end. He lives and breaths WRC but making those negative and akward questions which always end up to drivers blunt answer and many times it's for nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Had picked up on ( as others have throughout the season) that Tanak is getting moodier in a sarky way. Didn't realise it was just with Molly though, or if that's wide of the mark.
Maybe just a result of being up at the front regularly and having more at stake, which can = more frustration at times and a lot more tension. Or maybe it is a genuine problem he has with her.
Solans and Franceschi were not registered to WRC3. Who is not registered, doesnt exist for promoter so no sense to any promotion for them (to say the truth, also lot of registered drivers almost doesnt exist for promoter).Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
All in all, crews in supporting championships in WRC are "second league" in terms of interest and media coverage.
Except for Rovanperä in Monte Carlo and Henning Solberg in Turkey. They made the TV broadcasts, probably for the lack of competitive cars to show and their popularity value.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
I've listened to Julian Porter for years from the ERC rally radio. But he is getting a bit OTT on All Live trying to call every possible incident. Like a being sure its a puncture just from seeing a bit of understeer. He needs to chill out.
At Loeb's power stage he totally fucked up lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
But I must admit that it seemed to me too that he had some kind of puncture or similar.
As written here before, one of the biggest issues with WRC+ crew (as with the whole motorsport media industry) is that they are mainly British. In itself it is not bad (uncounting exceptions like Colin Clark being too British), but like WRC+ crew they most of the time give comments either with deliberate or unintentional tone of voice and act the way that hypes and favours Meeke, Evans, Breen, Greensmith, etc and disfavours the non-English drivers. This is very annoying. Since Esperanto was not success, I assume English will dominate media also the next decades before Chinese, but yet Motorsport media should re-teach themselves to behave more objective towards drivers from different nationalities (and also remember that not everyone in the sport is fluent in English). This continuous favouring of English drivers is quite big issue, since effecting strongly to media, results will be seen in all media monitoring e.g. in companies that sponsor drivers and this favours then drivers only from UK, eventually reducing the chances from others and not giving them what they would deserve. The more WRC drivers we would have from multiple countries / continents the better it would be for the future of the WRC.
What English drivers?? Meeke is from Ulster, Evans is Welsh, Breen is from Eire......
Whether you like it or not, English is the universal language; I think people are over reacting to supposed pro-British comments. A lot of motorsport series have UK commentators/ analysts, and I don't think there is much favouritism, in some cases, it's quite the opposite.
Japé prob ment UK drivers but you haven't been on the same the same WRC AllLive broadcast if you think that there is no favouritism :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
How many times they have mentioned Meeke returning with Toyota next year, while other drivers were on the stages... It was getting a bit ridiculous...
WRC+ struggled to interview Ogier & Loeb at the media zones and there were other tv crews all over the service park in Spain. There is clearly good coverage from other non-English language sources.
European F3 commentator for example was constantly cheering for the 'UK driver', even more than @wrc. For any of the global products, there shouldn't be favouritism. Guest commentators are a good choice, bring in more people.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
Live shakedown in Australia ?
It is time. Shakedown starts at 8:00 of local time, so we still have more than one hour and half to go...Quote:
Originally Posted by traxx
Will it be broadcated on WRC+ as we can saw Spain shakedown ?
WATCH the Rally Australia shakedown stage LIVE on the WRC Facebook page from 8.30am AEDST
Oh, yes, right, it was a Facebook live, thanks
Why would they not put the live shakedown on AllLive/WRC+ as well? OR will they? Those are the paying customers after all.
And if they're promoting it free by putting it on Facebook, then stream it on other sites too like YouTube etc.
They did put it on You Tube retrospectively for Spain.
Remember I had trouble cancelling WRC+ after Rally GB, then I realised I had to do it through Google Play as that's how I'd last subscribed ? So I cancelled it there.
Well since then I've still had an active subscription without paying again (for Rally Spain) on https://plus.wrc.com/en/ , and it's still working now. :)
studio shots: MRF tyre 'table' instead of Michelin?? wtf... :)