Onboard of Ogier from Ouninpohja 1. I hate this camera position but still it's nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2s-W...ature=youtu.be
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Onboard of Ogier from Ouninpohja 1. I hate this camera position but still it's nice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2s-W...ature=youtu.be
Same thoughts for me, why cant they use the same central position as with JML's Polo. It give much better perpectiveQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Nice Results:
Jari Ketomaa & Marko Sallinen Fiesta R5 1.
Samuli Vuorisalo & Eetu-Pekka Hellsten Fiesta R2 1.
Raimo Kaisanlahti & Jussi Kumpumäki Fiesta R1 1.
Andreas Amberg & Mikko Lukka Fiesta R2 JWRC 1.
And only if Juho could done the same with WRC...
absolute rubbishQuote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Max Vatanen tells us why no Finn was on the podium this weekend..
Disappointing that no Finns where in the top3 in Rally Finland. Ogier, Neuville & Ostberg were supported by their federation in their career and here we can see the result. The Finnish motorsport federation should learn from it and do the same! Jari Ketomaa & Andreas Amberg saved our honour by winning their class, good job!
Well.... :p
Østberg had no support from the Norwegian Motorsport Federation really... Here they just like to save their money, and spend it on nice trips for the members.Quote:
Originally Posted by mousti
Does anyone know how much did they jump at the yellow house jump?
VW Motorsport's weekend away in Finland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvWQBvPkh1E#at=216
Even with Latvala's fault, there is some spirit of the team. Can't say the same for Citroen, it's quite sad they even didn't show their 2nd driver in their reportsQuote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Just watched the onboard of Ogier at ouninpohja....
WOW.
Can we call him Ogieronen yet? :D
:D Not yet, there is still time to beat Loebinen :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Yes, it was at Mokkipera indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Koceens
Did anyone else have issues with the stone Østberg almost hit on ss22, or was it removed by spectators or something?
Wanted to ask you... Was your accident somehow related with woman who was in corner outside (she was just crossed stage) or was it completely driving mistake? Regarding photos, I suppose my fellow has post-crash photos - car moving from road action. If you are interested in it, let me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by donlorean
I'm still recovering from the event, will check back later with a longer post, but in the meanwhile, here's my friend's gallery from the event:
Neste Oil Rally Finland 2013
http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Nes....JPG?img=small
http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Nes....JPG?img=small
http://rallirinki.kuvat.fi/kuvat/Nes....JPG?img=small
There was no one reason for the accident... Main reason was that we had a wrong pacenote for that place. We knew that it's difficult corner and there was "attention" in our notes but there should be a lot more than just that... That woman cause a little confusion, and didn't help but it wasn't her fault at all... And we catching a car in front of us and there were a lot of dust... Generally we were a little too optimistic in that stage. We check from splits that we drove there over 1 sek/km faster than we drove in other stages(comparing to other drivers). And that was first time on Ouninpohja for both for us... So it was just our own error...Quote:
Originally Posted by sindroms
Luckily we are both ok and there was no injuries. Last thing I remember was that we are going a roof front in trees so it could be much more dangerous accident than it was...
What evidence do you have for taking such a stance? Don't you believe VW have done enough testing in the last year to fine tune their tarmac suspension. Do you think Mads has suddenly got much better on tarmac when that is a part of JML's game that was very much improved last year. Remember there are no rocks on the Mosel valley roads. - just the hinkelsteins on the 'platte ;) . Despite TN's form if the VW guys don't make mistakes it's a 1-2 for VW (home rally so I'm sure there will be a 'special' effort)Quote:
Originally Posted by adr17
From WRCHD (via twitter)
Renault Clio R3 | Huge crash and roll | WRC Rally Finland 2013 - SS 18 Ouninpohja » WRC HD
Now also on mtv3.fi/ralli with Lappi's spin.
Ouninpohjan EK:lla hurja kaato – katso video - MTV3.fi - Urheilu - Ralli - Uutiset
all you guys do is always slag of fords and there driversQuote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
would you prefer no fords in the championship so just 3 vw and 3 citroen that would be interesting
the fiesta is a good tarmac car 10 times better than the focus and jari was leading monte carlo before he crashed in 2012 and thierry is a proper tarmac driver
the original quote said fords wont be able to get near vw or CITROEN , that was more my point
I expect they left it there as some sort of philosophical science experiment into cause and consequence...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
Hi!
My full review of the rally it's online!
youtu.be/ 4NB5VuT8f6A
I hope that you like!!
"No rocks". But crazy cutting is punished everywhere... Mostly the same drivers who are "lucky" or "unlucky". Both Latvala and Mikkelsen are mostly at the "unlucky" ones when it comes to punctures. I'm sure there is a 'special' effort for all events by the way. But still, if anyone beats VW's number 1 and 2, it will be Sordo (if he finds some magic) or Neuville I think. Ostberg his pace and driving lines/braking etc in Alsace last year were great, maybe he can surprise as well? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mintexmemory
Do you happen to have nightmares about stones?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasS
Regarding this situation with the stone, I to agree it is a part of rallying.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
However I also believe that the incident involving Meeke and Novikov is also a part of rallying. If this incident occurred in a standard everyday rally, the time would not have been reinstated.
However I thought a penalty to Novikov for not pulling over for a following car (which is something that is taught when first starting rallying and something he should have done) should have been a better solution to the issue.
I do very much feel sorry for Meeke and he was rightly pissed off but, Remember this is rallying, same with hitting an animal etc. IMO
What I commented on had nothing to do with the Novikov-Meeke incident. And by the way, it turned out as an advantage for Meeke... ;)
Haha Yeah sorry, was not directed at you. I was just relating it to the "it's a part of rallying," Line to which the stone incident was discussed ;) And yes, that is exactly my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Onboard with Kubica off into the forest ;) :
Robert Kubica - onboard and great save WRC Finland 2013 - YouTube
Are there any onboard video or other of the Östberg rock?Quote:
Originally Posted by ThomasS
It's very possible that the rock was pulled up by the previous crew and the thrown away by Östberg, that's why no further comments on it.
Sure the whole road condition question became all talked about for the most of the rally, but was it really thaaaat much worse than in previous years, I don't know. The small roads always get heavily rutted in Finland, as they did this year too. Maybe it was little bit more than usual, but still - not really. More rain this summer to soften the roads? I don't think so. How was it in 2007 when some roads in Central Finland (not stages) were washed away by the heavy rains just week before the rally? I visited service park in Friday evening and asked all the WRC/WRC2 drivers I saw about the situation and they were 50/50 about it, though the general consensus was that small roads got into bad condition.
Of course, if there's a big rock on the road and we see it, and it's possible to go and kick it away, we do it. But drivers shouldn't count on it, like someone here already said, not every meter of the stages can be monitored during the passes for rocks. That's rallying ;-)
"Thats rallying" that explains everything and nothing...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
But sure I agree and I did already say that you have to take your chances in an earlier post.
The point and maybe the question is why would you knowingly watch a car drive over a large rock in the racing line when presumably , for example , you'd remove a wheel that had fallen off a car or a piece of body work out of the racing line. You just wouldn't leave it there for a car to run over surely?
And before someone says your not allowed to intervene Id just say all the footage I've seen of shirtless buffoons rushing in fearlessly out of the under growth to help a crew out of a ditch or a crash makes a mockery of that.
@Thomas, what are you trying to reach with this repetitive complaining? Things like this happened, happen, and will happen again, with or without spectators. On tarmac rallies in corners with cuts dirt gets on the road and drivers can crash there too. Are the spectators responsible for removing that too? How about a patch of ice in Monte Carlo? Where do you draw the line?
A huge thanks, for all of You for the support in stages at Neste Oil Rally Finland 2013, here in the forum, and from any other place in the world!
Mehanics also did a great job in every service, absolutely not a easy rally for a group N car!
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Cant wait for the onboard footage!Quote:
Originally Posted by ASRTmedia
FIA must take your proposals into account when they discuss 20 changes they're about to soon. Every spectator must carry a broom on asphalt rallies and when a dirt is thrown on the road, marshals must stop the next car (or at least slow it down) while the spectators sweep it. For ice patches in Monte Carlo I would suggest a blow torches which will melt down the ice first and then optionally vaporize the water (if there is time left for the next car)Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
WRC Rally Finland 2013 [HD-Pure sound] By Devillersvideo - YouTube - Not sure if already posted here. Another great video. :)
5th gear corner broQuote:
Originally Posted by danon
Finland an't the Safari dude, its a high speed event on generally smooth fast roads.
There will be no onboards for public viewing, WRC does not allow to publish them, papers were signed! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Great video. Is Lappi with BRR Fabia?Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
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Yuriy Kochmar's Mitsubishi in the ditch at Surkee 2 stage.
That's sad :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ASRTmedia
How come other competitors, e.g. Paddon, show at least part of their onboard footage in their daily coverage? Do they have special permission/pay additional fees?
First they deny us the stage times (for free practice and qs, that is a fact) and then onboards. What next? It was kind of funny on Saturday when Vetomies started, them I could follow from GPS tracker site on my phone, but WRC... blaah. Then again, in the forests it's difficult to use data and not first priority (first priority is eyes on stage), but how on Earth it's so difficult to get these little things right.Quote:
Originally Posted by ASRTmedia