I think they should use WRC car to advirtise new Fiesta road car
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I think they should use WRC car to advirtise new Fiesta road car
Mads Østberg is using his R5 in germany, instead of the wrc17 car.
Mainly because of limited testing and parts avalible on tarmac.
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I wonder if Mads is skipping Spain as well, if the lack of tarmac suspension and its testing and financing is a true issue
And, What about his Co Driver Ola Floene.. Dropped out ?!
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That was covered in the news thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daviesalaam
Not the big news we’re waiting for, still two interesting rumours about MSport that are growing on the net.
The first was, apparently, started by Italian magazine Autosprint, that claimed MSport is developing a Suzuki Swift R3T which will replace the Fiesta R2T in JWRC from 2019. http://www.diariomotor.com/competici...ue-es-posible/
The other, launched by endurance racing sites, reveals MSport can be chosen by Ford to undertake European costumer service for the new Mustang GT4, a car developed by Multimatic Motorsport from Canada and already competing at some US GT series. http://www.endurance-info.com/fr/m-s...amme-ford-gt4/
Yes, M-Sport.. not you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
If the rumours are right, this is the car MSport is developing as a R3 (yep, not a Ford!), eventually to become the next JWRC model. Base car uses a 1.4T engine and weighs around 1050kg.
https://www.diariomotor.com/imagenes..._1100x440c.jpg
Next M-Sport R3T car will be Fiesta with 1.5T engine, 3 cylinder and 240hp based in ST
Maybe they can do both! MSport is a private company and, for what we know, has no exclusivity contract with Ford.
That news should be bluff or pressure ;)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFuA5UnXcAA-VYs.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFuA44xWAAAyM8o.jpg
Suninen's livery has been updated a bit for Neste Rally, actually with more Neste sponsoring, and the green lines on the bumper are also the Neste brand colour.
What is happening Ogier's new Car...?!
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Ogier's getting a new car in Germany, not here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daviesalaam
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Do you think that Malcolm will use Suninen and maybe Mikkelsen in GB and Australia to win positions of Neuville? The last play... Ott. Don’t think Hyundai can use Sordo and Paddon. Wilson will try everything that it is allow to be champion.
Ogier gets a new car almost every rally.
not quite https://www.ewrc-results.com/cars/69...fiesta-wrc-17/Quote:
Originally Posted by racerx1979
For that M-Sport needs money (extra cars) and although probably he would get it, i don`t think that Andreas is the best joker for Ogier`s championship as he`s a good friend of Neuville. We also know that Finland didn`t suit Hyundai but on every other remaining event or most of them Neuville should be able to fight for the top3, whereas Teemu lacks experience and Andreas SS km`s plus none of them have been driven in a Fiesta.
This was brought up in Twitter: Andreas is too expensive for M-Sport at this point, and won't pay to drive.
Regarding how competitive both Lappi and Suninen already are, with their limited experience, Mikkelsen's value could quickly drop. I think he should be happy if he gets a works seat for the whole season next year.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
oh man you just upset a bunch of norwegians!Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
Mikkelsen beat Sunninen in R5s by over 1 minute after first day both in Corsica and Portugal and then basically just controlled the lead => quite a different level.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
There is no direct comparison with Lappi available, but
a) they have same manager
b) Lappi most likely already has a deal at Toyota so don't see how it changes M-Sport choices
The outings with Citroen certainly didn't increase Mikkelsen's value, but comparing the Citroen drivers in Poland and now in Finland, it's rather inconclusive.
Atm Mikkelsen and Tanak have about same value, Tanak has obviously better recent results, but does not have any good result on tarmac yet.
For reference: I am not Norwegian.
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Anyway I'd say the main point here is that if M-Sport does not get a lot of money from Ford they will either:
1. Use all money on Ogier and get very cheap/paying driver for other spot (so neither Tanak nor Mikkelsen).
Or
2. They let even Ogier go and go fully money-making like so many times in the past. Malcolm has a long history of picking drivers for money and just recently said that he's mostly interested in driver titles.
I don't think it's likely that they let Ogier go and pay Tanak or Mikkelsen to be #1. The signals from various interview seem to suggest that Malcolm is trying to focus on option 1. atm.
Something like RedBull M-Sport WRT should be enought. Like RedBull F1 team
Actually before Finland, i think that Tänak said to Estonian media that M-Sports main objective is manufacturers title. I can`t find the article to check at the moment but probably ESTwrc or someone can confirm.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
Malcolm said in the WRC radio interview in Finland that his priority was drivers cause he had 2-manu titles from before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tarmop
I can't confirm Tarmop. Maybe I missed the article because I was in Finland but I haven't seen it .
If private team M-Sport win the Manufacturers in 2017 that will be enough. A great achievement unprecedented in the WRC.
In 2018 they can do what they like.
I am surprised why Ford France didn’t support his champion. And Ford Europe don’t use the Fiesta WRC to advertise the Fiesta road car.
Well, Ford Europe is probably responsible for Focus RS recce cars (German numberplates).
haven't listen this interview ,but Evans told wrc.com that manufacture championship is very important for M sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
“I think there was an element that I was going to go for it, but there was a bit of a difficult situation. It’s very important for M-Sport to win the manufacturers’ title this year and I think they wanted to make sure they collected as many points as possible,” Evans said.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/augus...1--12-12-.html
Of course Evans and Tanak says that manufacturers title is very important. Do you expect they say "our team's main goal is to have Ogier as champion, and we just drive..." and only Malcom knows what's most important for M-Sport and himself.
Manufacturer title might be important for Ford Motor Co. to comeback.
Hopefully they'll take it this year and will see the Blue Oval return after 5 too long years without them. Malcolm Wilson deserves at least one of the titles if not both, he has put so much effort for this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
if Malcolm wants manu title more than WDC, then Tänak would have finished 2nd in Poland
https://twitter.com/HartusvuoriWRC/s...78097592111105
Kalle Rovanperä testing today at M-Sport...probably the Fiesta R5.
So Red Bull is personal sponsor of Sébastien Ogier, Elfyn Evans and the future (?) Kalle Rovanpëra M-Sport drivers. Maybe the answer to Malcolm Wilson "problems" are the called (by me) Red Bull M-Sport WRT.