Hello:
I send you ower own Rally Mexico video day1, made by Tunko and Charroman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1uEhsH0IqE
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Hello:
I send you ower own Rally Mexico video day1, made by Tunko and Charroman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1uEhsH0IqE
200 and line into short flat six left over crest, slow 120, right four tightens don't cut two minus, opens long and tightens half long into hairpin left double tightens neat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Must say that I'm dissapointed with Atkinson (also expected at least one off from him).
How about team radio in the Latvala/Novikov situation? Didn´t they warn? Or wasn´t it any radioconnection at the time?
Obviously no one did warn JML (or the people sent out "didn´t do their job") and that made some big changes in the rally. Pity!
Jari-Matti Lavala admits Evgeny Novikov's crash contributed to his own incident - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
On board from Latvala car needed. It is difficult to say, what happened. But IMHO it was JML mistake, nothing more.
on-board available here, at around 6:05
Review Rally Mexico 2012 Ford WRC - YouTube
according to this article he had warned from radio from Ford for Novikovs accident.Panic for somebody you already know?Quote:
Originally Posted by awake27
The Finn was setting an incredible pace through the longest stage on the route when he went off the road in the same corner as Novikov - despite being warned about the Russian's crash by the Ford team.
Jari-Matti Lavala admits Evgeny Novikov's crash contributed to his own incident - WRC news - AUTOSPORT.com
lolololol
At the time when Latvala rolled during the longest stage of the rally this morning, he was more than 20 seconds up on his closest rival.
“We were the quickest combination here
we had both drivers leading the rally at one point,”
World Rally Championship - News - Ford upbeat despite Latvala exit
lolololololol
"both drivers leading the rally STAGE" I think it was meant to say!Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
no, he mean after 1st ss when Petter was leading,and up to 4ss for Jari.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
I would second that. They're trying really hard with the Coué autosuggestion method. To the surreal i'd say.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Must be a different story behind the doors.
bluuford, your ability to predict the future is uncanny..... :up:
- bluuford's prediction of what Malcolm would say:
- what Malcolm actually said on wrc.com:Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Ford team boss Malcolm Wilson says Jari-Matti Latvala's speed on Rally Guanajuato Mexico provided plenty of consolation following the Finn's dramatic late exit from round three of the FIA World Rally Championship powered by Nokia.
Latvala and co-driver Miikka Anttila were fastest on eight special stages in Mexico with team-mates Petter Solberg and Chris Patterson topping the rally-closing Power Stage.
“We were the quickest combination here; Jari-Matti showed incredible speed,” said Wilson. “That’s obviously very encouraging for the future, as it’s the most competitive that we’ve ever been in Mexico. Even when we were first and second here a few years ago, we didn’t quite have the same pace as Citroen: this year we were faster. With five gravel rallies coming up, that’s clearly very positive.”
At the time when Latvala rolled during the longest stage of the rally this morning, he was more than 20 seconds up on his closest rival.
However, Ford did not go home empty-handed. A podium finish for Petter Solberg - his second of the year - has consolidated the Norwegian’s third place in the championship standings.
“It’s a good result for Petter and winning the Power Stage just shows again how quick the car is; we had both drivers leading the rally at one point,” concluded Wilson. “So if things had been just a little different, then we would have come away with a lot more.”
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Originally Posted by RAS007
Yeah.. making proper weather forecasts are much harder work and time consuming than making up some fairy tales.
Offers for PR positions are welcome :-P
Yust a short comment day after the end of a rally: Loeb did precisley that what was expected to do-win. No drama for him, no flat tyres. He is THE BEST, simple as it can be. Hirvo is getting closer to him, at least on the gravel. Good for a second driver in the team. Solberg-as usualy strugled with flat tyres and un-consistent stage times. Nothing new here, either. JML-yust a word: there are times, when you have to realize, that pure pushing over the limits brings nothing. Maybe an accident. And he did excatley-a huge accident. Still nothing lost for this season. Even Loeb can make a mistake or DS3 gets some technical troubles. But for this JML will need unluck for Citroen Nb.1 driver. And I'm a bit dissapointment over Atko's pace.
nice photos
Gallery: the Rally Mexico | Best of Rally Live
photos from Mexico are always spectacular :)
Same story from JML as last 7 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Potoklosis
I really wish I had something positive to say that would make Jari-Matti's indecent less asinine but I don't. He truly had no reason to be pushing like he was yet he can't seem to help himself. After reviewing the clip over and over, it's obvious that he hits something 19 seconds into the video that upsets the car, just prior to seeing Noviko's car. I understand that as top-tier athletes there is no ON-OFF switch to access that automatically puts one in safe driving mode but JM has to come to understand the long game and go for points at times. It's obvious he has the speed and to survive Day02 without an off, when he was really pushing, tells me he's learning. Maybe slowly, but he is the only one with a chance to match Loeb so he'll continue to get my support!
Jari-Matti's off had nothing to do with him pushing "over the limits" everybody with reading skills should be aware of that by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ucci
You're on the money DonJippo.
Takes less than reading : simply watching the videos.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
It was practically unavoidable regardless of who was coming behind Novikov.
Ehh...Block, Ogier, Araujo, Al-Attiyah, Tanak, Østberg and Solberg passed there before Latvala...Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Sure but they weren't at "pace". And by this i don't mean Latvala was over the limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Viking
Being 15s quicker than Hirvonen who was in control after 25min isn't really what i'd call a charge.
The meeting point was just inappropriate, plus my own frustration.
IMHO it is obvious that the reason for crash was only mistake - too high speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
I am not an expert, just looking at the video - the corner was something like flat, or 0 depends on system. So, it is around 170-180 max. Maybe even less depends on grip.
Even if Latvala saw the Novikov car, and IF he passed the corner at that speed it has clearly seen 100 meters to slowdown to pass crashed car safely.
Sure it is my IMHO, appreciate comments from specialists.
A rally stage should be free of a rolled and crushed Ford Fiesta WRC !
Now i'm running out of excuses. :)
Trying to find excuses for Latvalas stupid mistakes all the time reminds me of the excuses Solberg had all these years for not being fast enough...
In both cases there are not any valid excuses... just blind people.
It is fun though so keep going...
I thought back then you could just blame Subaru.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
yes the excuses for Solberg were easier to find i must say...Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
You're so easy to entertain. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
its does not matter, pushing to hard will get you into problems one way or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by DonJippo
There was no need for JML to push that hard especially not when being well over a minute behind Hirvonen.
Tell me what did JML gain by going so fast on that stage? Did he think he could catch Mikko (who was 1 min and 16 secs ahead.)?
Even if JML would have made it to the finish he would still be about a minute behind Mikko. With 15km to go.
...just remember Poland 2009. It is still in front of my eyes...
I suspect you're all over analysing the situation. There's no question that Latvala make a mistake. But was the mistake driving too fast as some of you suggest, or was it simply an error in his reaction to the car on the stage?
To answer the first part you'd need to know whether, if he hadn't have come across Novikov's car, would he have completed the stage? In all likelihood, yes he would have. He had, after all, traversed 80% of the stage and the incar shows him looking relaxed and in control.
And what of the time he was setting? At about 40 ~ 45 kilometre mark he was 20 seconds ahead of Hirvonen. Does that really indicate that he was over "the limit" or pushing too hard? Given that Hirvonen was 1 minute 16 seconds ahead going into the stage and his propensity (often claimed on this forum) to slacken off when the opportunity arises, and couple that with the fact that Latvala had been fastest all weekend, is it not likely that he would have been this far ahead at regular pace?
On the previous two 'proper' stages he had been 12 & 11 seconds faster over just 18 kilometres. No-one suggested he was driving too hard then.
The fact is he was driving well, came upon something in the stage which unsettled him, his reaction wasn't what it could have been and resulted in an accident. Hey folks, this is motorsport, it happens ... once again ... get over it.
Yeah, what he said....Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
So, who will claim 2nd place this year? I think that is really the fight we should be focussing on. Its currently at least a 4 way battle between Solberg, Ostberg, JML and Hirvonen... And realistically Hirvonen, Ostberg and Solberg are all showing they are pretty good at consistently finishing in high points claiming positions, so in an excellent place for the rest of the season. And add a win or two for JML later in the season and its really open to any of them.
As for JML's off, well yes it's disappointing he crashed, but utterly understandable at the same time. End of a long 3 days racing in hot temperatures, pushing on the limit regularly due to having to try and regain as many positions as possible, doing a stage that involved racing for the best part 40mins, its incredibly easy to make a small mistake and have terrible consequences. At least he had the balls to be out there giving it a go and not just giving up, that's not necessarily the mark of a champion, but certainly a sign of someone with the sort of attitude that people should want to be associated with our beloved sport...
this is easy..HirvonenQuote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
the 3rd place is where the competiiton is....
Wilson should give green light for fight to Solberg.
I'm afraid he is. :mark:Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis
I think that is where it is at . He really should do that .Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreis