Loeb has 4 stage wins, I think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
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Loeb has 4 stage wins, I think ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
It's funny that most stage victories comes to PG who also managed to roll, change tyre on stage and drive four stages without power steering :D
EDIT: Tolis, You're right.
yes 9-7 for citroen....
Would like to believe you want Petter to win............ :)Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
i would like peter or ogier to win....but i think ogier will go for the podium if he is smart.
I'm cheering for Mads , although I have a feeling Ogier will show a brilliant drive so characteristic for Sebastiens ...
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Patrik Sandell continues to punch above his weight in his Super 2000-specification Skoda Fabia in ninth overall. He could have been higher up the order but lost time when he spun into a snow bank on stage 13. With snow filling his Fabia’s radiator, co-driver Staffan Parmander had to clamber out of the car to clean the obstruction. Sandell then had to travel the wrong direction up the stage to find a place to turn round and narrowly missed colliding with the pursuing Sebastien Loeb.
from wrc.com
Day 2 photos: http://www.autosportfoto.sk/galeria/...y-sweden-day-2
if that is true i think he should be excludedQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
i d like to see Loebs incar with that moment.
Seems the new formula is a success so far. Great to be going into the final day with several drivers having a chance of victory.
I don't know if anyone has seen the ESPN stuff but Motors TV coverage of day one was really poor. Bad onboards and very few stage side cameras. They didn't show Sandell or Brynildsen either despite their strong performance.
the incar camera they use in the citroens is again really crap....the guys who are responsible for that are complete useless amateurs.
And licence endorsed, if not suspended.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
If you look at when the different drivers started after each section, I would say that those who are first, also have run faster. Ogier did not run especially well during the first part (in terms of his relatively late start number if you compare with Petter and Jari-Matti), but exploiting this position well on Saturday-leg. If we take into account the starting number, and under arbitrary conditions this gives, Petter and Jari-Matti have done the best job.
Your scenario to do this? Drive on reverse gear with 20km/h sooooo long and take Loeb into a front bumber with speed deference 120km/h? or build tarmac "safe zone's" around stage? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Anyone know why No. 37 Ricardo Trivino (lancer evo X) was excluded??
And for tomorrow, Go Mads!!!
retire...park it at the side.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
I think Trivino was excluded because of expired license.
Faulty competitors licence ...Quote:
Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
cant help you in czech though..Quote:
Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
http://www.autosport.cz/clanek.php?cl=11747
http://www.rallysweden.com/wp-conten...cisionNo11.pdfQuote:
Originally Posted by jonas_mcrae
just count how many times Kimi should "Retire" with this kind of "rule". Any normal driver will be found solution to get it back on stage/direction/road.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Maybe the "problem" could be in the rollbar design.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
probably but there are many other places to put a camera...to the side window, on the roof ects.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luis Pacheco
driving for a few meters is ok...but if he reversed and drove for 2 minutes up the stage (for Loeb to catch him) then it should be excluded....but since only the amateurs at wrc.com report it probably isn't true.Quote:
Originally Posted by KKS
To those of you who think Kimi has been running better than before, or not. I would say he has made great progress. To be so fun to watch under the circumstances it is in Sweden this year, requires good car control. Of course he has made several mistakes, but he tries, he tries. Great fun
I hope Petter can win this tomorrow ... he deserves it after all these years IMHO
I'd be happy to see Ostberg, Ogier, Petter or... Ken Block win. :D
In 5 minutes, the highlights of Day 2 will be shown here: http://www.everythingon.tv/channel/view/espn-9
Here some links i found on the Dutch forum
They should be be better than motors tv
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvzYbD3fSAI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4UrKEsnjTw
Greetings from Sweden
Great, great, great fight today. And even better tomorrow.
Well, looking the morning loop today, If count the times we can see that only first driver was much slower. just compared top 6:
1. Solberg
2. Latvala +10.7
3. Andersson +17.6
4. Hirvonen +21.6
5. Ogier +24.6
6. Loeb +31.6
7.Ostberg +36.7
So, they said that Swedish championship covered all the road with huge amount of snow and it was clearly visible that not only first driver was penalized.
This is the situation in repeated stages (I didnt count Andersson due to the powersteering and I took 11 sec away from Latvala, because he slowed down before the end of last stage):
1. Loeb
2. Ogier +6.9
3. Latvala +16
4. Solberg +41
5. Hirvonen +62.1 (including one spin - approximately 17 seconds)
6. Ostberg +69.3
So, what can we see? Fastest driver today was actually Jari-Matti, second was Solberg, Third was Ogier and Fourth was Loeb. Bearing in mind the fact that there is no Swedish championship tomorrow (Loeb even won one second pass yesterday), the we can say that even Hirvonen has a slight chance.
The fact that Citroen won so many stages today was mostly caused by their poor Friday (Ogier and Loeb had the best road position for today). Yesterday it was perfect position for Ford (due to their bad results from last year and wild cards). It looks that both cars are quite equal in terms of performance so far.
Well, I haven't been posting here quite a while as my interest in WRC diminished somewhat.
But this year, with all new cars I was very excited to see how it will look like, so I could hardly wait to see the coverage of day 1 on Motors TV.
Now that I saw both day 1 & day 2 coverages, I must say that I'm bitterly dissapointed!
Not with the rally itself, but with the terrible quality of the TV coverage.
Not once, in these 2 days, have I seen an outside action footage of any car for longer than 5 seconds! Which amounts to a total of about a minute of such shots in the 50 min programme!!!
Not a single helicopter shot, no timing while driving the stages, showing target times etc., no virtual spectator, no nothing!
Nothing except boring on board shots for 48 minutes, of which 90% is totally useless!
If that isn't changed very (and I mean very!) soon, I know I couldn't be bothered with watching this kind of "programme" thru the season!
NorthOne, or whatever your name is, you better shape up, and fast!
I think, if the conditions are as expected (or as I expect) the competition is between Ogier and Jari-Matti. Hirvonen and Østberg is out, and Peter must run over his ability. He will try, but the conditions would favor start nr 4 and 5.
I have watched ESPN coverage. Very nice! Beautifully balanced and well combined action between inside and outside.
I have to agree with you.. although I think the new WRC cars are a step forwards in terms of intertainment, the coverage, especially the onboard footage is a step back, even from last year. Surely TV coverage is one of, if not THE most important things to get right, yet we see no chopper coverage and piss poor onboard camera position footage, not to mention the positioning of the microphones. If they had even the slightest common sense they would ensure that a good camera position was a regulation.. one where we could see not only max driver input and maybe even a pedals subscreen but a good angle on the road ahead.. not to mention multiple microphone inputs.. incar, induction and exhaust which could be mixed to the required/desired levels to provide a good show for us fans watching at home. Lets face it, a huge majority of people follow the WRC at home. For something which should be so simple in relative terms to get right, yet they do not give it the attention it deserves... by a long shot! Its madness... How can they afford to get it so wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaps
Can any one point me to a site that might be showing this? (Like justintv), or even a site where I can watch the power stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluuford
Thanks
http://www.everythingon.tv/channel/view/espn-9Quote:
Originally Posted by MR666
Here is the TV Guide in UK time: http://tv.espn.co.uk/gb/espl/tv-schedule
Tomorrow, ESPN will broadcast the Power Stage live and also the highlights of Day 3 later.
I would like to see the list of top ten turned upside down each day, so we dont have to see this stupid tactics for road position. The drivers dont like, the teams dont like it, the sponsors dont like it, and for sure the fans dont like it !
So Mr Todt, pls do somthing !
I have watched both ESPN via the link above and also Motors tv and i would have to agree with your comments , however the one thing i would like to point out is that both programmes are produced by North One and as there isn`t as much money generated by Motors TV maybe this is the reason behind the sub standard programme , maybe someone from North One could answer this !!