Sorry — I sort of half-realised you were joking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
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Sorry — I sort of half-realised you were joking!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
As I understand it however the BBC could still take the Sky commentary feed - but it's understandable if they want to have their own commentators. That will be a difficult choice then, watch Sky with Martin Brundle or BBC with Coulthard!
Another interesting point from the race roundup - they said see us in Australia on "BBC One and BBC One HD" - now I'd previously read that Sky had exclusive rights to show F1 in HD, so I'd assumed there would be no HD coverage on the BBC next year - but perhaps this is no longer the case?
That may still be the case - but BBC1 HD carries BBC1 whether the actual programme's in HD or not, so technically it will be there...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Besides, HD is the only way to watch Eddie Jordan's shirts... :D
Really? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I wouldn't want Charlie Cox. He's better off commentating on Touring Cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
He's alright for MotoGP and just suits the sport but I know this sounds elitist - and F1 is. It needs authority and some witty humour.
Hearing CC sounds like he's commentating on Whacky Races.
Why not Crofty and Ant being promoted to the TV coverage?
Quite appropriate for DRS, KERS and Pirelli tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
CC would come up with some fantastic catchphrases in F1.
'And Hamilton is as close as you like as they go into the DRS zone, he drops the wing, pushes the kers and he's really got the magnets on!! Poor old Mark Webber has gone from hero-to-zero, the guy has so much bad luck that if he fell in a skip of boobs he'd climb out sucking his own thumb'
LOL. Sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
My thoughts exactly. They're a great partnership and Ant brings that insider view that's always useful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
My thought exactly!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
Oh, and David Croft potentially ending up on Sky is, to me, yet another reason not to watch its coverage. Maybe it's just me, but I cannot bear listening to him.
Exactly why I wouldn't want CC as lead commentator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow
I am not old enough to remember Murray, but I have watched plenty of commentary since. On ITV, Star Sports (Asia), Speed (US) and the BBC.
And I have to say, I think we will look back at 2011 and the DC, Brundle work as the best pairing and the best F1 commentary in a long time.
I will really miss them. They were such a good team. Will really miss them.
Edwards does, at least, have experience of commentating on F1 in the past with John Watson on Eurosport. You'll find a few clips on Youtube if you search for videos around the mid 90s.
One thing that really adds salt to the wound is that, of all the races that the BBC will be showing live, the season opener won't be one of them :mad: Fingers crossed that Setanta Sports will show live coverage of every race!
Yeah, but Australia is the middle of the night anyway, so most people will be watching either the re-run or a recording anyway. Myself I'll be recording it and watching it back later.Quote:
Originally Posted by 52Paddy
If the BBC get to choose which races they don't want to show then it makes sense that it would be those on at funny times of the day.
Apparently they got the first three picks, then Sky got the next three, then they alternated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/sport/t...nds-were-tied/Quote:
My understanding is that the BBC had the first three picks. It went for Monaco, Silverstone and the season finale in Brazil. You can't really argue with any of those. The first two speak for themselves while the third – well, imagine if we get a repeat of 2008 next year with Lewis Hamilton going for the title at Interlagos… the BBC couldn't afford to take the risk.
Sky then had the next three picks and then there was a system whereby I'm told they alternated. But there were stipulations. Neither channel could pick three consecutive races. In other words, the BBC was not allowed to have three consecutive races live while Sky was not allowed three consecutive races exclusively live, which made it rather tricky. Try it for yourself.
I wonder what the contract has to say about this. It was my understanding that it was worded in favour of Sky, but at this point I can't see the BBC accepting having to give up live coverage of one of their races because Sky has lost a race.Quote:
But Sky will be sweating, too, particularly on the outcome of the Bahrain and Austin grands prix, both of which it has exclusively live. One or both of those could be dropped at the WMSC meeting in a couple of weeks.
No, your not the only one. I can't stand him. He drones on and on, and has the same false excitement as James Allen which irritates me.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
Charlie Cox would be either a masterstroke, or a complete mess. But I would like to find out :) He would be certainly in the Murray mould, simply commentating on the race, not talking about tyres or strategy - just telling us what is happening - DC would be the man to offer insight and analyze the race.
He would be my choice for a laugh, but I have a feeling that Ben Edwards is the man being lined up.
Ben Edwards has been touted for F1 coverage ever since Eurosport stopped covering F1 in the mid-90's. Perhaps his time has come...
This did cross my mind but it would have been nice to get the full race rather than highlights (even if they were not live). Having read now that the BBC only got to choose three of the races themselves, it's understandable with the choices they went for though, personally (and purely personally), I couldn't care less for the British GP coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
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Originally Posted by Dave B
I wonder who the two fat, spotty kids were that ended up as the last 2 ;)
Well I would like to thank the BBC for an all to short 3 year stint.
It was the best F1 coverage since I started watching F1 aged 5 or 6 in 1991, with the exception of Legard, it gave the best overall coverage. The bbc coverage pre 1997 was ok but ITV was pretty bad with ads and alike.
I do have Sky Sports so I will end up watching all races on Sky to keep with Brundle, however if and probably when they insert ads again I will return to BBC.
One thing's for sure — if it is him, he will do a solid, professional job. I have never heard him doing anything other. I didn't like his BTCC highlights commentaries when ITV took over the coverage in 2002, but upon hearing him live was converted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
The side issue to all of this — will he still commentate on the BTCC if he does join the BBC F1 team? If not, who will replace him?
I'm guessing it would be one of the commentators from the supports races. Richard John Neil?Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
not for me, i still think he is a prize pack of ****s
Here is an example of Ben Edwards at his best, the final few laps of the Michigan 500 in 2000 co-commentating with Jeremy Shaw, in my view, its the most underrated commentary partnership everQuote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZQZ6MjtGPQ
Same reasons why I like him :DQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88
I would definitely settle for that next year :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DazzlaF1
Ben Edwards is a fine commentator. I remember before Eurosport lost the rights to F1 in 96 I used to watch him and John Watson's coverage all the time and I thoroughly enjoyed it. They were a good team in the commentary box.
I did expect Eddie Jordan to stay with the BBC. I am not sure he would really be Sky material, though I must say he has improved a lot this year and his commentary is far better.
Brundle has only been the actual commentator for one year, I'm sure you haven't forgotten what we had to put up with for the previous 10 years. So while he might not be the best possible, he is certainly the best we've had recently. But in any case the BBC don't need to compare their commentator (whoever that might be) to Brundle, since it looks like Croft will be the principle commentator for Sky, with Brundle stepping back to pundit.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Not sure about the idea of Davidson as a main commentator, I think it's a very different skill to that of being an expert pundit as he is now. Brundle made the switch, but I don't think that's representative - if you've seen the interview he gave after his first ever F1 race in 1984, it was clear even then that he was made for television.
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Originally Posted by AndyL
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO! :(
F1: BBC looks to rebuild team after talent raid by Sky | Media | guardian.co.ukQuote:
The BBC may look to Jonathan Legard or James Allen to fill the void left by Sky Sports' on-screen talent raid, as it seeks to rebuild its Formula One team virtually from scratch.
Some other interesting names mentioned in that article though (which seems to be largely a speculation piece) - Ben Edwards, who would clearly be a popular choice here, Toby Moody, Maurice Hamilton.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Toby Moody could be an inspired choice, but it seems unlikely. He was out of work back in winter 08/9 when the BBC took on the F1 coverage, and they didn't pick him then.
Maurice Hamilton seems like a good bet to come back into the BBC coverage in some capacity.
If it is true about Allen and Legard being considered, what on earth is stopping them going for Ben Edwards, a far, far superior choice to either? I don't understand why he wouldn't be an automatic pick.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
Because it would make a very short article and Guardian journos are paid by the word :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
They obviously need to hire new for the radio - but really, if the BBC want to be shown to saving money they should just double take on Sky by using their commentary for the TV, which we are lead to believe in the terms of the deal they can. But, seeing as Jonathan Legard is still on the BBC payroll (he has been covering football on 5live this year) I suspect that he will be back.
Thank goodness my wife got us a Sky+ HD box last year :-)
Get Paul King to do it, and get him away from the WRC with his 'live' commentary on highlights......... ;)
I see your NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOO! and raise you with aQuote:
Originally Posted by Dave B
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Hmm possibly, kind of like the X-Factor changed everything and now it's crap(er)
Ben Edwards in at BBC. Wonder who ITV will get for BTCC now? Simon Hill perhaps?
Good news! Ben Edwards to lead BBC's Formula 1 commentary team in 2012 - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Alfa Fan
An Edwards/DC commentary team sounds pretty good on paper. At least the BBC has gone for a big(ish) name, might show they're actually committed to keeping F1 long term.