Sutil will stand trial in a German court later this month

Fetched that far , you think ?

McLaren haven't let a word out of Hamilton's mouth since he said he'd go to the trial early on in this saga .
McLaren's "Hamilton handlers" have been fielding any questions .

Simply saying he saw nothing and that his testimony still stands would change nothing in the trial if he really didn't , but it would go a long way to clearing his name if so .
Even if it was a carefully written statement , read by his handler , it would seem he could deflect some of the speculation .
As it stands , a little damage control would seem to be in order , but we see none .


There is still no reaction from Hamilton regarding being called a "coward" , pathetic" or "not a man" , either .
Isn't that slander ?

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In the 70's I had a press that you could put an egg into , to make it square .

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Some chickens lay 'double yokers'. In the 70's, I was either sucking my thumb, or embarrassing my sister.

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I get all that , but Hamilton must have recieved something from the court or lawyers from either side , as he was apparently required to be excused , given that he was excused .
He was on the original list of witnesses apparently . Why try to submit a statement if he wasn't ?

Maybe they did , simply , screw up .
It would seem pretty odd , though .
It would be all over the news if they suddenly changed law firms , wouldn't it ?

Suppose , though , that the judge saw Lewis's testimony , stating that he saw nothing , at the same time as being told of his need to be at work .
It would explain the judge not seeing the testimony as being useful to the case , and excusing the lad .

Your honour , may I have permission to treat the witness as hostile ?

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The judge has not heard any of Hamilton's testimony, because he has not given any.
The judge leaves it up to the prosecution, and defense to provide it under oath.
Hamilton slipped through a rather large crack because his council was able to get an excuse for him.
He may not have had to say anything in the court unless he was called to the witness stand. But if he wasn't excused it is only because of a belief that he would show up, because Sutil and him are such good bro's. :)

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I'm not convinced an organisation like McLaren would factor in to their production programme the possibilities of launching their car on the same day as a minor trial to give one of their drivers an excuse not to attend lol. McLaren were not the only team to launch their car that week and its almost tradition for them to launch a week before the first test so unless they have calculated this in previous years for the possibilities of a driver of theirs needed as a witness in a future trial. I think thats incredibly far fetched and one of the most wild speculations I have ever read here. I have to say your speculation is getting rather silly now bagwan, but I have to admire your determination in trying to pin at least something sinsister on Hamilton. I think you've covered just about everything apart from Lewis wearing full 'Hollywood prosthetic makeup' to look identical to Sutil and doing the attack himself, whilst leaving Sutil to carry the blame lol. :eek:

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Why are you calling this a minor trial? Someone almost had his throat slit. You are suggesting that Hamilton's role in it will not be damning to Lewis, that is speculation? It is something I agree has a very good probability of being true. But, If the judge did not accept Hamiltons request to not attend, his job could not do anything to stop him from having to attend,
if he received a summons which is what the Sutil camp should have done.

If this affair was tried in the jurisdiction where it happened at least one person would have probably received a few whacks with a cane, and it would be over with. (except for a law suit that could be launched in Europe.)

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A convicted male criminal who is between the ages of 18 and 50 and has been certified medically fit by a medical officer may be subjected to judicial caning.
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Caning in Singapore - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Except it was in China not Singapore, although I would not be surprised if the punishments were even more draconian there

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Except it was in China not Singapore

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OK! I'll just grab my coat. :o

Might I respectfully suggest this thread is temporarily locked until such time as there's any further actual news, rather than unhelpful and potentially libellous speculation about a court case which by dint of the appeal is still ongoing?

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Hamilton hasn't got to clear his name regarding anything and the petty sniping in the media from the Sutil's is small fry compared to the more important things happening in Hamilton's life at the moment, for example testing and concentrating on the season ahead. The only person who seems obsessed with this notion he has tarnished his reputation is you Bagwan. Lewis has put his foot in it more than once in the past by speaking to the media and for once I think letting his advisors answer questions or advise him to stay quiet is the most professional thing to do. If he has anything to say it will come at the appeal and staying quiet before then is the correct thing to do. If you want to spend the time until then trying to suggest he is guilty of the unknown, then thats up to you. I haven't seen this discussed anywhere else with such relentless suspicion and quite frankly it looks rather desperate to say the least.

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At this point we only really know that the Sutils have tarnished his reputation , to which he has not replied .

I agree that they are smart to keep him gagged .
But , that would not preclude some sort of statement .

If there is nothing to hide , a re-assertion he saw nothing would be in order .
If Adrian's crew feel as slighted as they seem , they would need only to make another slur towards Hamilton to give him some real trouble .
An "Oh yeah , he'll be there ." would open a huge can of worms that would require a huge amount of damage control .

Given they felt bold enough to call him names in public in the first place says to me that when the appeal date is anounced , Lewis will get much more spotlight than he wants .


I do love a good mystery .