Osama Bin Laden Is Dead

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Originally Posted by chuck34

As I said, the US can do no right by some.




My God I got sucked back into this. I'm out, like I said I was gonna be because you just can't have a reasonable conversation with some people.

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Actually, the US does a lot od good around the world. Sadly, they also poke their nose in places it doesn't belong.

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Originally Posted by downtowndeco

Who is the one who feels everything that is different is bad?

"In February, 1998 Osama Bin Laden issued a statement titled "The World Islamic Front for Jihad Against Jews and Crusaders". This document states that it is the duty of all Muslims to kill all American citizens and the allies of America. According to the Jihad ideals it is okay to kill others if it is for the God; especially for the spreading of the Muslim faith (not all Muslims agree with the ideas of a Jihad)."

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Yes, in retaliation for the deaths of their people. They didn't start it, the West did with their biased and brutal foreign policies and if you don't like it we go to war with you attitude.

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Originally Posted by schmenke

Umm... no it wasn't 555. In fact, just the oposite:

"...I also want to speak tonight directly to Muslims throughout the world. We respect your faith. It’s practiced freely by many millions of Americans, and by millions more in countries that America counts as friends. Its teachings are good and peaceful, and those who commit evil in the name of Allah blaspheme the name of Allah. The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them. Our war on terror begins with al Qaeda, but it does not end there. It will not end until every terrorist group of global reach has been found, stopped and defeated. ..."

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They target Muslim countries and muslims. And it was all triggered by the West. They are worsening their own problem. If the Muslims are their friends, why do they have the blood of innocent men, woman and children on their hands. The actions of the US speak louder than the false words you quoted them on.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

Liar-liar pants on fire!

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You are either:

1. 12 years old
2. Have an IQ of 12

Which is it?

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Originally Posted by Eki

According to Bush, it was OK to kill others if it was for "freedom"; especially for the spreading of "democracy" (not all believers in democracy agree with that stance).

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Which as all sane people know is bullsh!t. The "leaders" of the "free world" see fit to torture and kill people in the name of "freedom" and "democracy". That's exactly what the other side is thinking too, that they are also right. So who is right then? The answer is no one.

People on this forum are stating that I am a fan of Osama. On the contrary, I hated the guys guts. People on this forum are stating that I think the US can do no good. Again, on the contrary, I have seen the good they do with my own eyes. Sadly, the people who are making these comments are those who like me, are from the West so they see everything that the West does as right. Have they ever stopped to think that the terrorist sitting in the cave somewhere has the exact same thoughts that we do?

I can see past all the bullsh!t and just because I disagree with the biased views of people on this forum who live in the West, does not mean I support what the likes of Osama and his kind do. Many from the West wear blinkers. What I am saying is there are two sides to this whole story. Both sides are the bad guys here. Getting personal or running from this thread does not change the fact that the world is fu@ked up, and will always be fu@ked up as long as there are more than 2 people on this planet who can argue about something.

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Originally Posted by anthonyvop

Thank you for proving my point....Nowhere did President Bush order the killing of Muslims just for being Muslims.

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:erm: I never said he wanted to kill Muslims just for being Muslims :s tareup:

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Originally Posted by cali

There's always a reason for every consequence and USA/Israel has given more than enough of a reason. Do you really think that OBL one fine day just woke up with an idea of attacking WTC towers? Just like that this idea came to his mind? If you take away the reason, then there's no consequence to deal with.

Not that I'm justifying OBL or smthin, but clearly you cannot even understand the reasons for all of this and it goes waay back in history. And now we have consequence where all of these idiots are killing each-other and thus affecting our lives as well with their games.

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I know you'd like us all to live in peace and harmony, me too , but that is not possible in the current situation we are in. At the moment there are terrorist groups all over the world trying to blow up/kill people because on their values, their chosen way of life, their religion. What should we do about it? What should the Americans do about it? Nothing? Let them do what they wish? Should we engage bombers in philosophical discussions? Bush Jr was not the brightest kid on the block but American policy has changed after Obama came into power and they are heading into the right direction. I'm really surprised how people (Europeans of different nations) who have so much in common with Americans can despise them so much that every single action by them is condemned no matter what it is and what it is based on. People also forget the fact that Americans have bailed us out two times. Let's face it, without the Americans all Europeans from Finland to France would be speaking Russian.

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

At the moment there are terrorist groups all over the world trying to blow up/kill people because on their values, their chosen way of life, their religion.

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So you think it's OK that the Americans and some other countries have chosen the way of life of helping Israel to kill and oppress Palestinians, to occupy Iraq and kill people there, etc.?

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Originally Posted by DexDexter

Let's face it, without the Americans all Europeans from Finland to France would be speaking Russian.

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Don't make me laugh. The Americans helped the Soviet Union to fight Finland in WW2. It's thanks to the Finns and maybe the Germans, not the Americans, that we don't speak Russian.

I think Obama has done the correct thing in not releasing pictures of Bin Laden with half his face blown off. Conspiracy theorists would just say that they are faked anyway.
If he was still alive he would have sent a message by now to keep up Al Qaeda morale and make the US luck dumb.