Almost official: USF1 wouldn't race in 2010

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

And given the somewhat chequered past of one K Anderson esq, one wonders with incredulity as to how the USF1 outfit was even considered, let alone selected and vetted and deemed fit.

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I can tell you exactly why. Since F1 seems hell-bent on following the horrible "franchising" model of US sports and Rugby League, I believe the term used by them is "expansion team" - i.e. selecting a team outside of the sport's core geographical base over potentially more qualified entrants, some marketing/economics BS I guess. I believe that is the reason, and the only reason, why USF1 got a spot.

Doing yet more to show why the FIA selection procedure needs to be flushed down the toilet and have proper old-school qualifying again. The only reason I want Stefan to sneak their way in (well apart from the two extra cars obviously) is that it could set a precedent to smash this particular piece of FIA legislation into a million little pieces.

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Originally Posted by V12

I can tell you exactly why. Since F1 seems hell-bent on following the horrible "franchising" model of US sports and Rugby League, I believe the term used by them is "expansion team" - i.e. selecting a team outside of the sport's core geographical base over potentially more qualified entrants, some marketing/economics BS I guess. I believe that is the reason, and the only reason, why USF1 got a spot.

Doing yet more to show why the FIA selection procedure needs to be flushed down the toilet and have proper old-school qualifying again. The only reason I want Stefan to sneak their way in (well apart from the two extra cars obviously) is that it could set a precedent to smash this particular piece of FIA legislation into a million little pieces.

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TBH, I think the Mad Max influenced selection process is probably now a thing of the past. I know the FIA have much work to do in this regard, but i am somewhat confident that we will not see a repeat of this kind of shady, strong-arming, selection process that mosley oversaw.

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Originally Posted by V12

I can tell you exactly why. Since F1 seems hell-bent on following the horrible "franchising" model of US sports and Rugby League, I believe the term used by them is "expansion team" - i.e. selecting a team outside of the sport's core geographical base over potentially more qualified entrants, some marketing/economics BS I guess. I believe that is the reason, and the only reason, why USF1 got a spot.

Doing yet more to show why the FIA selection procedure needs to be flushed down the toilet and have proper old-school qualifying again. The only reason I want Stefan to sneak their way in (well apart from the two extra cars obviously) is that it could set a precedent to smash this particular piece of FIA legislation into a million little pieces.

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While I understand your point, I don't completely agree with the reason behind franchising in mainstream US sports (football, baseball, basketball). OT - this usually occurs when current franchise owners feel the need to line their pockets during a period of growth in attendance/viewership. While true that "Expansion Teams" are selected to expand the geographical reach of the league, it also comes with a HEFTY "expansion fee" that is split among the other franchise owners - often to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

If USF1 had that kind of cash to pay the FIA upfront, I don't think we'd see them in this predicament.

Any other good USF1 failure name puns out there? So far I saw:

WTF1
USF1asco
and I'd like to add USFail1

Any more? :)

Useless Stupid F**kers 1

This has been an ugly chapter - in many ways - US F1 served to expose SpeedTV forumers hypocrisy and the attitude in North Carolina in general relative to F1.

There is a rush to call this all Ken's doing and to absolve Windsor - no doubt led by the NC bunch and people associated with SpeedTV.

The entire thing is disgusting to watch...

Here's a lovely piece:

http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cu...lass-hypocrisy

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Originally Posted by stephenw_us

This has been an ugly chapter - in many ways - US F1 served to expose SpeedTV forumers hypocrisy and the attitude in North Carolina in general relative to F1.

There is a rush to call this all Ken's doing and to absolve Windsor - no doubt led by the NC bunch and people associated with SpeedTV.

The entire thing is disgusting to watch...

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Not suprised, SpeedTV seems like the only ones making it look like Anderson & Windsor are the victims, in reality they've only got themselves to blame.

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Originally Posted by DazzlaF1

Not suprised, SpeedTV seems like the only ones making it look like Anderson & Windsor are the victims, in reality they've only got themselves to blame.

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Bad mangement, we won't see those two on a f1 grid for a long time, lession has been told new teams must be learnt from it, btw should the title should be: offical now that usf1 not in f1 this year

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Originally Posted by ykiki

While I understand your point, I don't completely agree with the reason behind franchising in mainstream US sports (football, baseball, basketball). OT - this usually occurs when current franchise owners feel the need to line their pockets during a period of growth in attendance/viewership. While true that "Expansion Teams" are selected to expand the geographical reach of the league, it also comes with a HEFTY "expansion fee" that is split among the other franchise owners - often to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.

If USF1 had that kind of cash to pay the FIA upfront, I don't think we'd see them in this predicament.

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Just to expand on that:

Before an expansion team is approved, there's usually some criteria that have to be met first. For example, the league wants to make sure this new team has a viable stadium (or plans to replace an aging stadium with a new one in the near future). Is there a passionate audience that will show up at this stadium? What TV competition would this new team face?

It's important to maintain parity in a franchise system, but this is always done in the front office with programs like revenue sharing, salaray caps, and draft pick selection. The New York Mets aren't allowed to use aluminum bats just because they suck.