I did think of that, but I was just wondering about other's opinions, or the likelyhood of it happening, or if something similar had ever happened in F1 in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copse
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I did think of that, but I was just wondering about other's opinions, or the likelyhood of it happening, or if something similar had ever happened in F1 in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by Copse
Unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
The contract will surely contain a clause that says he has to drive in F1 if under contract with the team.
Not much to add to the conversation here, but I don't know, why some people keep highlighting that WDC-factor so much to 'prove' something. WDC is a nice thing and every driver's ultimate goal, but some make it sound like "he has a WDC, so he is better than that guy, who hasn't got it", is kinda unfair especially considering, how close the last few seasons have been and the final result could have very-very easily been completely different.
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Originally Posted by Firstgear
There is clauses against this. A driver must be in a racing seat, a drivers value is often determined by his last races, so if driver doesn't drive for a year it would do damage to their value, and their driving is ultimately their commodity, that is why the drivers, and especially the top drivers have clauses against this. The job description of a test driver and a race driver are also entirely different.
In principle I agree with you. But usually there has to be significant reasons why a driver that has not won the WDC be considered equal.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
Wining the WDC is like wearing the rings from winning the Indy 500 or winning the World series. It is a mark of achievement.
The difference between a driver that does not reach beyong Q1 compared to his teammate being the first five cars for example at the end of Q3 may be relatively small timewise but the Q3 driver is viewed as the better driver.
Massa did not clinch the deal, Kimi did. And reviewing Raikkonen's achievements in f1, it is self-evident that he is the better driver.
If Ferrari gets rid of Kimi and retain Massa then they will look quite ridiculous - but of Alonso is hired then it will also look like the hand of Alonso is at work. Alonso does NOT like teammates that are competitive with him at all! :vader:
I know people here like point to 2008 season and based on that they suggest that Kimi is not as good as 1. he was or 2. as was hyped. I'm trying to look objectively at 2008 :) and there was a dip in Kimi's performances compared to Massa around mid-season, that's a fact. But people who dislike Kimi leave it at that and don't seem to want to consider that maybe, just maybe, it wasn't all his fault. Based on Kimi's performances now it is possible that last year there were car issues that people (also those who don't like him) should take into account before judging him, since it's clear that he is as good as ever. There you go, I didn't sound too much like a Kimi-fan boy, did I?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saint Devote
Kimi might not be as good as hyped, as they hyped him as better than MS, but he is bloody good!
Probably not – however the contract is said to be ”watertight” - especially because Kimi is making a very good job. The reason to that the 2009 result doesn’t looks better really is not depending on drivers (Kimi or Massa) and every one knows that - I think - it’s depending on the car - not on the drivers. And above that, the team has made couple of mistakes – enough to loos the title if the car would be better. So if (a big IF - because I think its not necessary to accuse any but..) IF anybody is responsible to that it must be Stefano it shelf..Quote:
Originally Posted by Firstgear
Also McLaren made same mistakes, both teams made couple of wrong decisions when developing their 2009 years car.
That easy it is, the reason to that they in spite of that have a win is solely because of good drivers (like Lewis and Kimi) and the team making a excellent work under the weekend.
I can’t see McLaren speaking that they will pull out Lewis, because of the teams result for the year is not that good – and the situation is quite similar in both teams now when Kimi is in the first driver position again.
:)
I agree and disagree with you. Just because a driver has won a WDC doesnt mean he is better than one that hasnt. However, winning a WDC shows that that driver was at least consistant enough over a season to beat the others, regardless of how good their car was.Quote:
Originally Posted by jens
very well saidQuote:
Originally Posted by henners88