Breakaway series is go!

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

If I was Bernie, I would give a contract that stipulated they wouldn't run a direct competitor series.

As there wasn't one, it's a no brainer to sign but if it were me, I would have that clause in to protect myself from this scenario.

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It's really speculation whether such a condition exists. Since no direct competitor existed, would Bernie have even asked for such a condition? As someone else said recently, hindsight is a wonderful thing :)
But even if true, it's not a showstopper for FOTA as there are plenty of good tracks that are either not in a contract with FOM, or will soon be out of contract.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Ioan is right. You can put whatever you like in contracts; but if that particular clause is against the law it means absolutely nothing!

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If a contract requires you to do something that is against the law then it's unenforceable. But it's not against the law to decline to host a particular motor race.

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Originally Posted by henners88

If thats correct then great!!

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Here:

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Originally Posted by EU Commission for Competition

Following discussions with Competition Commissioner Mario Monti, the FIA agreed to modify its rules to bring them into line with EU law. After consulting interested third parties and the Member States, the Commission is now ready to close the file. The modifications introduced by FIA will ensure that :

* The role of FIA will be limited to that of a sports regulator, with no commercial conflicts of interest]removing restrictions in circuit contracts about the hosting of other motor sports events[/b].

Aside from the Commission's concern to ensure that FIA's role is limited to that of sports regulator, the Commission has also taken into account the effect that valuable TV sports rights can have on national broadcasting markets. To this end, FOA agreed to modify the current agreements and offered certain commitments for their future conduct. In particular, broadcasters in the various countries will be invited to tender for the TV rights on the expiry of the current (and any future) contracts.

The parties have also agreed to reduce the length of new free to air broadcasting contracts to a maximum of three years (except for contracts where specific investments justify a length of up to five years).

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http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en

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Originally Posted by EU Commission for Competition

The Commission is satisfied that the conflict of interests identified in the FIA regulations and the restrictions that had been put on circuit owners, F1 teams and TV broadcasters have been ended. This assessment comes after a period of monitoring compliance of the settlement reached in October 2001 with international motor racing body FIA and the Formula One companies. FIA's role is now limited to that of a sports regulator. Circuit owners can, if they wish, organise rival championships and [/u]car manufacturers will in the future be able to participate in races other than those organised by the Formula One company[/u]. Television contracts have also been significantly shortened, which allows broadcasters to bid for coverage of this popular sport at regular intervals.

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http://europa.eu/rapid/pressReleases...guiLanguage=en

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I would be interested to see a link there ioan.

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Here:

http://forums.motorsport.com/forums/...&postcount=287

Good enough?! ;)

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Originally Posted by AndyL

It's really speculation whether such a condition exists. Since no direct competitor existed, would Bernie have even asked for such a condition? As someone else said recently, hindsight is a wonderful thing :)

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Well for a long time a competitor did exist in the form of CART/IndyCar. So I wouldn't be surprised if such a stipulation was in there, if only to protect against them, not a breakaway series.

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But even if true, it's not a showstopper for FOTA as there are plenty of good tracks that are either not in a contract with FOM, or will soon be out of contract.

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Quite so. The steady drift away from the traditional tracks has left many venues up for grabs.

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If a contract requires you to do something that is against the law then it's unenforceable. But it's not against the law to decline to host a particular motor race.

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That's up to the tracks of course. And if they want to run both they can. However I think neither FOTA or the FIA would want a situation where both series run on the same track and the comparisons that would result in.

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Originally Posted by markabilly

and is just another reason the little beggar crawled to china and other such places

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Don't underestimate the EU Commissions power, nor the people who work there!

As long as CVC/FOA/FOM are EU based there might be some surprises coming for Bernie and Max.

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Originally Posted by thunderbolt

how albert park race track can have both racing on the track

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How's about the Eastern states stop being greedy and let the better tracks/venues have sporting events :)

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Originally Posted by Mark

That's up to the tracks of course. And if they want to run both they can. However I think neither FOTA or the FIA would want a situation where both series run on the same track and the comparisons that would result in.

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I disagree the FOTA will want to crush the maxie series on exactly the same tracks by running a couple of weeks exactly there, with cheaper tickets + well known teams and drivers on the offer.

Who will turn up at a track for 100 Euros to watch Manor racing when they just witnessed the best teams and drivers 2 weeks before for half that much!

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Originally Posted by Daniel

How's about the Eastern states stop being greedy and let the better tracks/venues have sporting events :)

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Are you implying that the Western States have better tracks and venues?

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Are you implying that the Western States have better tracks and venues?

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I think he was saying exactly the opposite.

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Originally Posted by ioan

Not sure I understand, is Abert Park both in Melbourne and Adelaide?!

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Melbourne phillip island has motogp world superbikes f1 and now they are complaining about not getting chosen for the breakaway series.