Petter Solberg WRT

There are only 2 drivers from Citröen who can win(1really), and two from Ford... So I agree with you there.. It's hopeless to try to win without full factory backup.. Thats why the WRC is boring now... The fun part is to see who is best of the rest! A podium for Citröen is possible, and maybe a win if the works drivers retires... All lot of if and buts, but thats how it is..

They can win but Loeb must make a mistake.. In straight fight when ford guys won last time? :)

what I ment was this.. If you drive a m2 or private Focus/C4, you can't beat the worksdrivers.. Even if you are faster, either you get a teamorder or something done with your car that slows you down.. Petter will allways try to win, maybe thats why the teams are not so keen on giving/selling/renting him a topspec car..

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Originally Posted by Barreis

They can win but Loeb must make a mistake.. In straight fight when ford guys won last time? :)

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Japan '08, I believe.

Loeb was just rallying to get enough points for the championship, not to win in japan...

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Originally Posted by Barreis

They can win but Loeb must make a mistake.. In straight fight when ford guys won last time? :)

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Are there any so-called "straight fights" in motorsport, particularly in rallying?
I can use the same logic describing Loeb's wins. When was the last time Loeb won in straight fight? Hirvonen had some mechanical and adjustments problems, Latvala crashed (and so did Loeb - so it's a good exuse), after Latvala had crashed Mikko couldn't push hard for wins as he had to keep manufacturers points in his mind. So each time Loeb won it was thanks to Ford guys having some problems, no matter what kind of. You not always win by being the best. Often you win because others are a bit worse. Loeb was worse for the past 3 rounds. maybe not in terms of pure speed, but from the reliability point of view. Ok. Loeb can win in Finland. 100% credit to him in this case.
Well, you got my point. In motorsport you just can't say for sure if someone is faster because he's faster or because others are jsut slower (cause of different reasons).

What's this, phisolosphy?! xd All philosophers are depressed persons..
I thought when they are all on road without outings and problems 'don't remember when ford guys won (that's for me straight fight).. :) But P.Solberg could do that..

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Originally Posted by White Sauron

Are there any so-called "straight fights" in motorsport, particularly in rallying?
I can use the same logic describing Loeb's wins. When was the last time Loeb won in straight fight? Hirvonen had some mechanical and adjustments problems, Latvala crashed (and so did Loeb - so it's a good exuse), after Latvala had crashed Mikko couldn't push hard for wins as he had to keep manufacturers points in his mind. So each time Loeb won it was thanks to Ford guys having some problems, no matter what kind of. You not always win by being the best. Often you win because others are a bit worse. Loeb was worse for the past 3 rounds. maybe not in terms of pure speed, but from the reliability point of view. Ok. Loeb can win in Finland. 100% credit to him in this case.
Well, you got my point. In motorsport you just can't say for sure if someone is faster because he's faster or because others are jsut slower (cause of different reasons).

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Don't try to hide facts.. Without problems for any driver there is only one or two rally that others can take from Loeb - and even this due to road position. It was different when Grönholm was there.

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Originally Posted by Finni

...Without problems for any driver there is only one or two rally that others can take from Loeb - and even this due to road position.

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Sad, but true..!

Question : Is it just a matter of money for Solberg to run a C4 ? If not; in case it is possible to run a private C4, how far in terms of setup it could be from a) Official team b) Sttobart team c) Munchi's team.