WRC Testing

Ogier https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l2GOGXbLOw
All the Toyota guys https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq1RYJn-eMc
Ogier and Evans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM15UFVsaxU

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Originally Posted by AnttiL

Again, don't try to judge speed from what you see on test videos. Anyway if Hyundai is redesigning their suspension, at least they won't be making the same mistake as Citroen.

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I’m not judging the speed, speed is only relative against the others and until the first rally, we won’t know. What you can do is look at the attitude of the car, and see what it’s doing and in my opinion, there are a couple things it’s doing better than current fiesta.

Puma by checkpointrallye https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSAizUQKBAI

Sordo clip
https://twitter.com/antonisdousis/st...27660736884744


Neuville
https://twitter.com/AsachiG/status/1430522785319825409

Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNI1jI5aom4
Tänak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCmxfZiDkdg

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Originally Posted by mknight

Wuorela wrote that "any R5 car" is faster than the new Rally1 car in corners. Hard to take him seriously after that.

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.

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Yeah agree

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Originally Posted by mknight

The comments about VW 2017 car are even more funny. Are we supposed to believe that the VW that dominated WRC completely and spend all their testdays during most of 2016 on new car (not even testing for rallies) suddenly make so big design mistake that it forced them to quit WRC? (the post implies this).

All 3 VW drivers (who drove multiple other 2017 cars later) said that VW would likely have been either best or one of the best cars.

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Others are making those VW comments and Wuorela says he is not believing on those rumours...

For me looks like Wuorela thinks like those 3 ex VW drivers...

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Originally Posted by pantealex

Others are making those VW comments and Wuorela says he is not believing on those rumours...

For me looks like Wuorela thinks like those 3 ex VW drivers...

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Well Mikkelsen was praising VW Polo 2017 as very impressive car

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All 3 of the VW drivers were.

Puma Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqAGOSiPv7U

https://www.facebook.com/10004451275...537562935/?d=n

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9p0xCyX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9p0xCrX...pg&name=medium

Sordo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAJxszC0mCE

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

Puma Day 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqAGOSiPv7U

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Big moment on the bump, code brown for the cameraman!

Hybrid by Zagatoi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5KgliuoROg

Puma by rallyechrono https://youtu.be/Ca1-s5apdXw

Puma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLDmJpW9BLQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWKPLA9cxfk

Sordo and Neuville https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiX3GEWh5UI

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Originally Posted by er88

Too early to worry about Hyundai just yet.

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Rumours said that there is much bigger problem than only suspension. Something to do with hybrid unit and overheating.

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Originally Posted by Alex009

Rumours said that there is much bigger problem than only suspension. Something to do with hybrid unit and overheating.

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That could well explain the huge air intakes on the sides of the Toyota Yaris...

Οliver testing at Greece
https://twitter.com/AsachiG/status/1431238169706520576

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNQ-...b_channel=Vpap My video from the three days of hyundai test here in greece.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xefX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xemX...pg&name=medium
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-D3xenW...pg&name=medium

Where is it?

Sardinia, with Matthew J. Wilson

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)

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Originally Posted by MartijnS

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)

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In his weekly video blog he confirms going for tests in Sardinia, but doesnt say any much more.

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Originally Posted by MartijnS

Mikkelsen posted on his Instagram this morning that he was flying to Sardinia ;)

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Pirelli do almost all their gravel testing in Sardinia

Puma Sardegna https://youtu.be/w5LfeySK188

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MSport testing today in Sardinia the Ford Puma Rally1 Hybrid for 2022 without the side winglets in the rear wing: less drag but less rear downforce - images from Top Rally video - (https://youtube.com/watch?v=w5LfeySK188
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On the vid just above there is a winglet on the left side, but not on the right. Imo most likely explanation is that the right side one got knocked off touching a tree or something like that.

Toyota also testing https://twitter.com/colinmacardeche/...933298179?s=20

Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/wZDk2_CPZmE

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/wZDk2_CPZmE

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I’m not sure what to make of that, but something doesn’t seem right. It almost looks like the gearing is long to use the hybrid boost, but the hybrid wasn’t working or connected. It looked, and sounded really flat.
What did you think?

agreed....looked really lazy compared to Puma test last week


but its testing, we dont know what they were aiming

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Originally Posted by EstWRC

agreed....looked really lazy compared to Puma test last week


but its testing, we dont know what they were aiming

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Of course testing is testing….
That wild rake they have in the car will take some getting used to tho!

Yaris Hybrid By sudrallye https://youtu.be/10M1DCeV-DY

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Originally Posted by doubled1978

I’m not sure what to make of that, but something doesn’t seem right. It almost looks like the gearing is long to use the hybrid boost, but the hybrid wasn’t working or connected. It looked, and sounded really flat.
What did you think?

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To me it looked like the electric engine either wasn't on or wasn't properly synchronized with the petrol engine in 3/4 of the hairpin passes. The car turns and then there is a lul before power comes.
Might be that they are also testing different ways (programs) to use the hybrid.

Fourmaux mentioned in the recent interview that FIA hasn't decided on when and how it will be used and wants to make it as unpredictable as possible. That sounds like a really bad idea to me.
The basics rules on when and how it can be used should be decided as soon as possible cause they likely can affect tons of other areas of the car and need much more testing to fine-tune.

At the same time there likely needs to be some strict rules so it doesn't turn into "programmers competition". (at one point some team mentioned they could program when it will be used individually for each stage based on corners/profile ++, that sounds like a recipe for cost explosion.)

Another Yaris hybrid https://youtu.be/IMV64SUfgbw

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Originally Posted by mknight

To me it looked like the electric engine either wasn't on or wasn't properly synchronized with the petrol engine in 3/4 of the hairpin passes. The car turns and then there is a lul before power comes.
Might be that they are also testing different ways (programs) to use the hybrid.

Fourmaux mentioned in the recent interview that FIA hasn't decided on when and how it will be used and wants to make it as unpredictable as possible. That sounds like a really bad idea to me.
The basics rules on when and how it can be used should be decided as soon as possible cause they likely can affect tons of other areas of the car and need much more testing to fine-tune.

At the same time there likely needs to be some strict rules so it doesn't turn into "programmers competition". (at one point some team mentioned they could program when it will be used individually for each stage based on corners/profile ++, that sounds like a recipe for cost explosion.)

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I agree, we don’t want it to turn into a programmers competition…I would prefer it’s on the driver to push the button, but I don’t think the FIA want that. At least then it’s a driver controlled strategic option.

Fourmaux Hybrid https://youtu.be/wm4vD9VekR4

Hanninen Hybrid https://youtu.be/Ui3oBdm5pD8

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Originally Posted by doubled1978

I agree, we don’t want it to turn into a programmers competition…I would prefer it’s on the driver to push the button, but I don’t think the FIA want that. At least then it’s a driver controlled strategic option.

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But as a programmer myself, I want to get involved in the race ;) But seriously, engine and diff mappings are probably also very crucial at the moment, I doubt it will be more complicated than that. And developing software is cheaper than developing mechanical parts.

And when the first news came in about electric boost, my first thought was how great sporting aspect it could be, something to show on the telemetry on TV and compare driver strategies, but for some reason that's not going to happen.