Mobile phones & tablets thread

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Yup. You know what made me laugh once, someone on here once said that people should be able to use personal devices like phones, tablets and their own laptops for work. There are enough issues with viruses in most places without actually getting people to bring their own devices in. Bonkers I tell you....... Hell, they even argued that it made people more productive :rotflmao: If only I remembered who it was, oh how I'd laugh :D

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You should buy a fluffy white cat to stroke while laughing once you have a recollection........

Daniel actually does this I've seen it ;)

It is actually a thing. BYOD bring your own device. Some suggest more like buy your own device.

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Originally Posted by Mark

Daniel actually does this I've seen it ;)

It is actually a thing. BYOD bring your own device. Some suggest more like buy your own device.

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I know it's a thing :) I allowed people at the last place I worked at to use their phones on WiFi in certain areas where people were only around at break times, but I would never allow someone's laptop on the domain.

There's a fine line between letting people get on with things and stopping them doing their work. The place I'm temping for at the moment tends to let people get on with things and it's quite good I have to say, but if I'd taken that approach where I was before, people would have taken the p......

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I know it's a thing :) I allowed people at the last place I worked at to use their phones on WiFi in certain areas where people were only around at break times, but I would never allow someone's laptop on the domain.

There's a fine line between letting people get on with things and stopping them doing their work. The place I'm temping for at the moment tends to let people get on with things and it's quite good I have to say, but if I'd taken that approach where I was before, people would have taken the p......

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With proper restrictions the BYOD idea works very well. It is used at my daughters school with a great deal of sucess. After the initial restrictions and security concerns are addressed it actually frees up a lot of resources that can be used for other things.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

With proper restrictions the BYOD idea works very well. It is used at my daughters school with a great deal of sucess. After the initial restrictions and security concerns are addressed it actually frees up a lot of resources that can be used for other things.

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It all depends what you're hoping to achieve. At the place I'm working for at the moment, they work in a very competitive industry which they dominate at the moment so security is of the utmost importance when there's a lot of commercially sensitive stuff flying around. What do they use? Blackberry's, even though the IT people love their Android and Apple phones. We do use google docs quite a bit, but only for collaborative things with suppliers with no commercially sensitive data.

At the college I was working for, the students were young adults with learning difficulties and keeping them safe was my primary concern, so letting them on the web through regular broadband was a no no unless they were on one of my machines with our (rather Orwellian I have to say) web monitoring software.

In all corporate environments I've worked in, the whole BYOD thing has never really been something which has been allowed. When I worked for a local county, the head of the county wanted a netbook, so we bought him one, it was quite slow, he complained about this, it was entirely his fault.

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Originally Posted by Daniel

What do they use? Blackberry's.

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This is what I like about BB10 - the balance feature. It kind of takes care of the BYOD aspect by seperating the policy driven work side of the device from the personal side.

A nice feature IMO, which if I had the budget I would deploy a BES10 server tomorrow (actually, make that Monday!).

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

Hah! The things my users would get up to in order to attempt to gat a new phone....

Phones 'run over', left out in the rain, dropped in the bath, sink, toilet!

They don't look so smug when I replace like for like, I can tell you.

We've got one chap, a right PITA, he wants a Z10, and does not realise I'd have to purchase Server 2008 or 2012, then run two versions of BES, just cos he wants a new toy. (And no, I wont use Activesync as then I open a real BYOD nightmare)

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You mean you don't use Server 2008 yet? :eek:

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Originally Posted by Daniel

Yup. You know what made me laugh once, someone on here once said that people should be able to use personal devices like phones, tablets and their own laptops for work. There are enough issues with viruses in most places without actually getting people to bring their own devices in. Bonkers I tell you....... Hell, they even argued that it made people more productive :rotflmao: If only I remembered who it was, oh how I'd laugh :D

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You'll be amazed to learn how many companies do that though.
About 1 year ago I read an article in a business newspaper where some people actually stated that they think they are more productive since the company implemented a BYOD policy. There were also some who thought BYOD is just not right, I guess the later were the ones who have been in the business longer.

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Originally Posted by ioan

You mean you don't use Server 2008 yet? :eek:

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On our two DL370's we do, yes. These servers run our SAN software/hardware - Datacore/MSA70. We've two 380's running ESX 5, and our production environment is virtual. All the VM's bar 1 are 2003 std or ent. There is a legacy VM running 2000 pro!

We are a property co. For years, the Chairman and CEO were fairly risk averse, so while we did not set the world alight, we ticked over. Then, when they sold out, we had a banker take up the CEO mantle. Straight in the job and this banker undertakes 2 speculative developments at once, in 2007. Makes you understand how this wunch of bankers led us down the financial oblivion road! So, just as the credit crunch sets in, this supposed ex banker who ought to know, puts up two buildings without so much as a pre-let.

Cue a lack of finance, even bigger lack of tenants, and our share price slips to 5p from a high of £4.40.

Amongst all this I have to get board approval for IT budgets - so while the bankers are pi55ing what is left of the pot up the wall entertaining agents who are incapable of finding tenanst even if they bumped into one in the street, I get put on the back burner to simmer gently.

We've had a hostile takeover attempt by a Seth Efrican shareholder, more money up the wall fighting this....

Then, we are finally sold to venture capitalists, who - as it turned out - overpaid for the company, and are reigning everything in.

Hence why we still use 2003 - both Server and Office, and XP on the desktops.

Every payday right now is a bonus, as they could pull the plug anytime if they so wished.....

Still, could be worse I suppose ;)

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Originally Posted by Daniel

I know it's a thing :) I allowed people at the last place I worked at to use their phones on WiFi in certain areas where people were only around at break times, but I would never allow someone's laptop on the domain.

There's a fine line between letting people get on with things and stopping them doing their work. The place I'm temping for at the moment tends to let people get on with things and it's quite good I have to say, but if I'd taken that approach where I was before, people would have taken the p......

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I'm totally free to use my phone on the companies Wifi whenever I wish. Its not become a problem for us but then again I use my phone a fair bit during the day for work business anyway. The people at the bottom of the ladder don't get the same freedom but thats life. I think with smartphones these days you can get on the internet without the need for wifi so providing it for employee's makes no difference. Not that they do this that I am aware but if you restrict wifi access, it just means employee's will use 3G and if there ever was a need to monitor what they are doing, you couldn't do it. Its in the companies interest IMO.