Rally Sweden 2017

Ostberg with the biggest jump on Colin's Crest? Funny because there was a bet for the highest jump on his onebet site.

I dont know if the FIA are monitoring this new trend on bets because this sport is easily influenced.

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Originally Posted by denkimi

top speeds are slower than they where with the 2.0 wrc cars, so that's no excuse either.

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Yes, but that was the 2011 - 2016 cars, not 2017 cars.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville who was a nobody in sweden and they will be probably be eclipsed by a non winner in car that ogier struggles with... how does that make them a good car special boy

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You forgot that Neuville already was very close to a victory in Sweden..


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Originally Posted by mousti

You forgot that Neuville already was very close to a victory in Sweden..


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yes after latvala retiring ogier hitting problems and mikkelsen on team orders to finish... he won 3 special stages in 2015, and now dominating.

C'mon, let's just be honest: Latvala nearly sweeped the road yesterday and still is 2nd overall. Today he nearly has the same conditions as Ogier, but the champ isn't able to claim back much time. So Toyota can't be so bad, can it? Or is Ogier suddenly becoming slow?

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville who was a nobody in sweden and they will be probably be eclipsed by a non winner in car that ogier struggles with... how does that make them a good car special boy ?

If toyota was equal or close to the competition Latvala would have a quite comfortable lead... and what about hanninen ?

basic simpletons unable for complicated thoughts.

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Neuville is also the only top 4 runner who had a road order advantage on day 1.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

currently toyota having a previous sweden winner at the wheel are losing to neuville

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And where is 2013, 2015, 2016 Sweden winner now? :D

when you talk about car performace winning means nothing, you can win a rally without the fastest car.

Latvala is the fastest driver in sweden and with the toyota he will have to fight not to finish 4th, in monte he was nowhere, and what about hanninen ? he is nowhere so far on every rally.

Toyota is the worst car of the new breed of cars, of course they do better than those testing videos suggested but given the fact they are a factory team, they do absolutely nothing and that is solely on the fact that toyota gave the project to a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work.

but as i said previously the season to judge drivers and equipment starts partially in mexico.

Now if you want to overglorify drivers and teams (evans in monte toyota here) like some kid, be my guest but accept the flak.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Toyota is the worst car of the new breed of cars, of course they do better than those testing videos suggested but given the fact they are a factory team, they do absolutely nothing and that is solely on the fact that toyota gave the project to a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work.

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While I agree with you that the Toyota is behind the others, the results show they are not that far behind. And while I was also very pessimistic about TMR, looking at when they were given the project by Toyota and what they did have at the start then I can say that I am very impressed. If they would be "a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work" they would be NOWHERE NEAR the pace they are.

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Originally Posted by onemanband

While I agree with you that the Toyota is behind the others, the results show they are not that far behind. And while I was also very pessimistic about TMR, looking at when they were given the project by Toyota and what they did have at the start then I can say that I am very impressed. If they would be "a worthless unprofessional nationalistic team of village finnish kids who have no sense how proper teams work" they would be NOWHERE NEAR the pace they are.

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They also deserve respect in the time schedule they had to establish everything from scratch, under a year if I'm not mistaken.

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Breen finnaly find some speed.

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Originally Posted by ujtik1

https://www.facebook.com/raymondwordin?hc_ref=NEWSFEED Live Hagfors

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Has it ended?

Edit: no, just not working on mobile

Finnaly Citroens are wake up. Only 2/3 of rally needs :/

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Originally Posted by ujtik1

https://www.facebook.com/raymondwordin?hc_ref=NEWSFEED Live Hagfors

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Is there straight link for stream? In monte facebook streams didn't require fb account.

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

how does that make them a good car special boy ?

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It makes it better compared to what you and some others have said, not the actual comparison to other cars.

Latvala pass was very nice at the live stream

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Originally Posted by lnvs

Is there straight link for stream? In monte facebook streams didn't require fb account.

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https://www.facebook.com/raymondword...6021629470664/

Why was SS12 cancelled if there is not maximum average speed rule?
How fast were the cars actually going at the fastest point?

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Originally Posted by lnvs

Is there straight link for stream? In monte facebook streams didn't require fb account.

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https://www.facebook.com/raymondword...6021629470664/ ?

Red Bull just started https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84G...y-championship

[QUOTE=SlowSon;1125921]Red Bull just started https://www.redbull.tv/live/AP-1Q84G...y-championship[/QUOTE

:)

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Originally Posted by lnvs

Is there straight link for stream? In monte facebook streams didn't require fb account.

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In monte streams were from fanpages ,and now these are from normal users,probably thats why you can't watch it without account .

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Originally Posted by ujtik1

In monte streams were from fanpages ,and now these are from normal users,probably thats why you can't watch it without account .

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Now I can when people posted right links, not facebook wall. ;)

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Originally Posted by lnvs

Now I can when people posted right links, not facebook wall. ;)

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Ok ,next time I'll try to make it better ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR7czYhgvrA

Disaster for Meeke.. :(

Meeke off...

Damn it Meeke:/.

Meeke!!!! You hold yourself near all rally and now THIS...... F#CK!

Shiiiit, Meeke... Like Latvala, these bad runs will puncture his confidence.

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Come on Kris, you know you don't have a quick car, typical overdriving.

That said, both Citroens have been tail happy and struggling all weekend.

latvala very slow... i think the road is deteriorating.

HUGE respect for that "push-back spectators"!

Neuville in a different class.

Latvala's gap to Tanak just over 4 sec now... I'm really scared!

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great drive by neuville, a new force rises.

Congrats hyundai, dogs getting tastier as time passes.

LOL at neuville.... "i didn't push to be honest"

mind games.

Latvala and Tanak had to slow down at the spot Meeke was parked though, Neuville did not.

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Originally Posted by EightGear

Latvala and Tanak had to slow down at the spot Meeke was parked though, Neuville did not.

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well Neuville earned most of the time after meekes spot so it didn't matter, at first split (where meeks off was) he was equal to ogiers time.