As Eddie said that's just audio from all live. I better enjoy silence or my workmate's imprecations to clients than Desbourough telling me where the drivers are from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
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As Eddie said that's just audio from all live. I better enjoy silence or my workmate's imprecations to clients than Desbourough telling me where the drivers are from.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
90 procent it is Becs and Julian in all live. But you can moan anyway about free product.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Becs is always there during stages, then Desborough, Porter and King alternate as second commentator and as studio co-host
I may be wrong, but isn't Des only in Live TV stages part?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
I’m pretty sure he has also been there with Becs and with the studio hosts
I'm not moaning. I'm politely stating that I miss the time when rally radio was a radio and not the audio of a live video.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oliverk
I didn't know it require too much intellect to understand that a commentary of a visual product can not keep you up to date on what happens on the rally like a radio commentary.
I remember rally radio having Colin Clark describing the scenery at the location where he was interviewing the drivers or telling about his hotel breakfast, through a phone line sound quality, while waiting for cars to arrive. Sometimes there was even music played while the cars reached the finish. If someone had gone off, the only thing they could say is that he's not moving on the map or the split is missing. Now we can see what has happened, sometimes we're lucky to see it live, sometimes we can get an instant replay, sometimes we get the visual from the next car or helicopter a bit later. Even on the Audio Only, they say what's happened. Often we can even get a quick interview of the team boss after someone has retired. I think All Live Audio Only is a lot better, although I admit it's not tailored for pure listening experience, but it's a lot more informative and there's no more phone line sound quality.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
I miss them calling split times instantly, now the commentators are enjoying the video themselves and splits are rarely mentioned.
Why you guys don't understand a very simple reasoning?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Before All live, we could listen to radio and be updated on what was happening in the stage because the commentators, being in an only audio media had to update their spectators on splits and give comment on what was happening.
The audio of a visual product do not do that because it would be stupid to update on all the split while they are showed on the screen. They just comment something that people are already watching and some information are not given.
Colin clark described the scenery before the event started and on break times... No reason to bring that to the discussion.
I'm not saying that just to say it. I actually tried to listen to the radio while working as I did for 4 years straight and it is not possible. You heard car noise, and some unclear comment and become annoying after 30 seconds.
As for the fact that you can see what happen. I'm happy for you but my statement was not against all live, but about the fact that personally I found the real radio a comfortable way to follow the rally and now I can't listen to it anymore. I hope now it's more clear.
In the radio times, most of the time we did not know what happened in the stage until the driver reached the finish or a spectator or team member sent a message from the retired/crashed/punctured car. It's true that now they cannot look at the split board all the time like in the past because it was all they had. But they still announce the split times quite often. And I think it's better to know what's happening in the stage than to know every single split.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Every now and then I have to resort to just listening to the All Live stream and to me it still works just like the radio. It's different, but it's still informative.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
I always felt Rally Radio was 90% grating, banal (i.e. Becs Williams) banter followed by noise as we tried to hear what the driver was saying at stage end. "Oh, I think we lost Colin there, apologies." You can't keep apologizing for the same problem for ten years, you halfwits!
Most of the things I really dislike about All Live are the ones that remind me of Rally Radio.
The thing is, that rally radio and television are two very different media's. You can't just stream the audio of a video and claim it to be radio.
Yes, its easier to follow the rally on a video screen, but for those of us who can only listen to it for some reason, rally radio has now become useless.
Umh, expet for that small chit-chat, music, it is better and more accurate. Like mentioned, you get to hear, when someone has an off or has stopped for some reason right away, not after 5 minutes, then wait for a reason etc. Times, also splits and comments are also there like before.
I refuse to believe this. It's different, but definitely not useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Maybe a sensation of the rally radio – the mutual feeling of not knowing what's happening in the stage – is now gone and replaced with the emptiness of being left out of something that others have – the visual effect.
What can we say. we are happy for you if you still enjoy the audio of a television without being able to see it. We don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Rally Turkey on Friday was my first time listening to the wrc live radio, cuz I wasnt at home to watch. I really ejoyed tbh.. But seeing you guys saying it was better before cuz now its only "someone saying whats on the wrc+ screen" ...idk.. I just got a little sad about it haha
who we?Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
NevermindQuote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Agree with this. The carry over of Becs & Co. to All Live also carries on the amateurish feel and their need for 'banter'.Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
It would be great to have a proper serious commentary like other sports get...
what i find annoying:
*every now and then starting a sentence with "if you're just joining us..." omg, we can rewind or look back from the start
*constantly praising the All Live "look how fantastic we are, this is so awsome, etc" - we bought the product, so no need to try selling us the product again
*some bimbo replying to every sentence Porter tells "yap, yeah, wow"
I don't think there should be a main presenter in the studio who does not know much about the sport.
They actually do have to do recaps. It might sound stupid to most, but it's literally a wise thing to do. Only thing is how exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnb
Agree with it. But they've got that stupid audio feed that they've titled 'radio' where they have some people not interested in the video.Quote:
Originally Posted by dnb
Would you be okay, if they'd do a yoga segment with her in the morning before the start of first loop?Quote:
Originally Posted by dnb
The thing that annoys me the most is when they start apologising, if someone swore. Yes, emphasis it even more by giving it more attention than just gliding over it.
Is that a legal thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
I suspect it's more to do with them being British.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
There are some limitations when it comes to TV channels (http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/sp...ct/page9.shtml). But AllLive is not a TV channel.
Probably in some countries, there could be day time limitations (USA? or like in Finland you can only show violence after 9PM)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Could be they are just being polite. Maybe because kids are possibly listening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Btw, why do they only have Brits (Molly being the exception)? With half of the world speaking English, how hard is to get experienced commentaters from other countries? Speaking of Molly, she’s quite nice and has a good knowledge of the sport; why not give her a try as main host and let her have the post on a permanent basis?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
As many said, overall the service can still be improved, but it’s fantastic to follow a rally through All Live; it’s probably one of the best WRC upgrades ever. I just regret RB/MH took so long to do it.
In my experience at least 25% of the time that politeness is not being honest and not saying how things really are.Quote:
Originally Posted by T16
Children know more than you think.
Today i sent this email to WRC+ support. What you think about it?
“Hi, my name is André Oliveira and i am WRC+ All Live user. I have one idea to WRC+ All Live exclusive chat between users (who real paid for it) and WRC+ comentators. Something like a quick and exclusive line of communication. Thanks for the attention.”
Anyone else unable to un-subscribe ? I dont see any such option on my Profile page ?
Just did it yesterday
I've done it before no problem but now I cant get it to work. What do I click on ?
https://i.imgur.com/NDVnPA2.jpg
there must be cancel subscription button just under this windows that you posted...in the right corner below
Don't give up so early, it's not over yet :DQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
haha you :D ...man i really miss your jokes and humour here, you used to be here more often in the old days.
and dont worry, I have not given up, I just have my own system how to pay to them...I will activate it again before Spain ;)
Haha thanks! It will soon be like in the past though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Sorted it. :)
When I last subscribed I was on holiday and had to do it via the App. So I had to go into Google Play and cancel it from there.
Like EstWRC I'll pay from Spain and this will cover Australia too.
First part of an in depth look at All Live and the wider WRC TV operation: https://f1broadcasting.co/2018/10/17...g-foundations/
It might be now an unique opportunity for wrc+ team to do a funny group interview in a wrc+ studio with a Loeb, Solberg brothers, Block and Al Qassimi.
Are they doing full shakedown coverage now?? Great news if this is going to happen at every rally!!
What is wrong with WRC+ in Catalunya? Where is the coverage over WRC2? For the first time this season WRC2 battle is actually super interesting with the WRC2 champion battling against "future world champion", 2 brand new Polo R5's and which one is driven by WRC legend Petter Solberg, super fast local etc. but instead we're watching Al Qassimi cruising through the next stage in a WRC3 speed, some pointless interview or a rotating GPS maps. Please there is a lot of people who want to see WRC2, now all we get is a 1min "highlight" video on youtube at the end of the day.