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Originally Posted by dimviii
Some people say the fences are for keeping all the moosies in the woods and off the road. There are lots of moosies in Finland
But some say its to help the farmers who had a bit too much to drink to stay out of the woods and find their way home...they can be blind drunk and if they wander off the road they hit the fence then they can feel their way home.
Or somebody's home anyway... :crazy:
Shirley, I could not comment on which is more true.. :D
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Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
The jump was good, but far too many people out there. I was wondering about the Jarko Nikara VIP zone at the top close left side, fencing stupid 10m deep with only a few people inside agains thousends of slave to authority fans in 5-6 rows outside struggling with the marshals and helicopter before first loop. Even Mrs. & Loeb events...
Ah I see, I had been mislead by the media!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Still any footage? :D
I dont think he beat Petters average speed either...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
Mikko's average on Ouni 2 was 129,5 km/h against Petter's 130,3 km/h.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
Here's Juha Salo's incar from Ouninpohja 1: NesteOilRallyFinland2012, ss17 Ouninpohja1, Juha Salo, Proton S2000 - YouTube
Don't forget Mikko now is running on 1.6t, but Petter run on 2.0tQuote:
Originally Posted by tfp
I think eight years in between made a greater difference, development on both the cars and the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
Are in-car films in this year free to uploading to net?
Just wondering because so many of these are online now. I didn't see any mentions in norf regulations although...
where are they ?
I have only found the Uninpojha stage from alistair fischer... nothing more but clips apart from that.
Juha Salo Proton (Ouninpohja):
NesteOilRallyFinland2012, ss17 Ouninpohja1, Juha Salo, Proton S2000 - YouTube
Brendan Reeves (Ouninpohja)
Ouninpohja Stage Rally Finland 2012 Brendan Reeves WRC Academy - YouTube
Yazeed In-car:
Yazeed Racing in Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012 (OnBoard)
Veikkanen Civic (Jukojärvi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-RrKuWMhMg
Duplessis (Mökkiperä)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0yx5J8xgKm8
Fischer (Ouninpohja)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcMiKW4oCsg
Video: WRC Neste Oil Rally Finland 2012. Chris Atkinson`s out - YouTubeQuote:
Originally Posted by AP-Racing
Did he even hit sth in that turn? He seems to be on the line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xsara Fan
Reminds me some of Ford offs earlier this year. There is a stone in the corner in which he hit hard as his tyre was in the ditch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
World Rally Championship - News - Revealed: Citroen's Finnish secret weapon
OK, now it is clearer, basically Citroen has made what Reiger started and all others copied since, turned the damper upside down. The primary benefit from this is less friction, due to separate tubes, one tube for the piston, and one for guidance of the strut. The other benefit is improved durability(but this has never been an issue for Citroen before..)
So actually the Greeks here were right, Citroen just now are using same technics as Ford has for years. Just shows how good everything else is on that car!
"There is no smoke without fire".Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
Hirvonen - engineer, that's new on me. Looks like he can tell one secret or another...
Jössös, the description in the link is so lame. The airheads writing the crap at WRC.com are too lazy or ignorant to ask anything, take any photos, or understand how on current ''inverted'' there are already ''2 tubes" ---the upper tube guides the piston, and the lower tube guides the upper..---how odd cause this morning I have to order material for another 40 lower tubes, 3.04m...Quote:
Originally Posted by AMSS
(sigh)
True, and if I remember right Petter set that time using Pirelli's. There are a lot of variables over the years. Its a shame it couldnt have used the same length stage as Petter. That way it could be an outright test of speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
You never know, one there maybe a competition with cars just built for Ouhninpohja, like pikes peak :p :
Or maybe not :s mokin:
Amazing camera angle in this onboard of Alistair Fisher from Ouninpohja:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcMiKW4oCsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcMiKW4oCsg
I finally managed to update my blog. Behind the link you can find some thoughts and pictures of our adventure in "Jyskälä".
Rally Co-driver: WRC, Neste Oil Rally Finland 1-4th of August
The story goes that in 1985 when Hannu Mikkola landed the previous record time for Ouninpohja in Quattro E2, the team changed Audi's back wing to a bigger one just made for Ouninpohja. This enchanced downforce and the faster Mikkola went, the better the grip was. I don't know if there is photos to go with the story but that is at least how Mikkola tells it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
AUDI team also have boosted the engine there, if I'm not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
This is why it is called the Finnish GP :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
I love to hear about things that hapenned in the past like this, especially if it involves the group B era :)
nice to see that there are low lifes in developed countries as well... i thought we were the only priviledged nation to have them in abundance.Quote:
Originally Posted by WRCfan
Of course it is too much to ask from sub-human species to understand that the guy who had that huge accident had another one a few weeks back which cost the life of his 24 year old co-driver.....
Figure it out. May be when the alcohol had vaporized from their heads, probably could understand that stupidity (even in general)... or may be not.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
the fact that they actually drink that much shows that they are full retards when they do not drink as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
One of the reasons i am hesitant to visit Finland is exactly this kind of garbage behavior... clapping and cheering when they see accidents is beyond me. And it is a real pity to see such behavior from a nation that i hugely respect on how they do things in general, not only rallying.
for me it is not something that will make me hesitant for visiting,but trully i can t find a reason to cheer and clap for an accident.I saw this behaviour and at other countries too.Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Just go to the right places and you won't be bothered about it, can't actually remember to have seen any overly drunk people on the stages this year.
Mikko in Ouninpohja:
2012 WRC Neste Oil Rally Finland Mikko Hirvonen Long Onboard - Dailymotion-Video
Awww sh*te, intercom audio is missing... Otherwise nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
nice video you can see that Mikko takes riskes in some parts of the stage
And here I thought they were clapping to see the team get out of the car unhurt.
That was offcourse the case too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Unbelivable stuff, what an immense grip, Mikko knows every bend & overcrest of the stage by his mind, with this speed he must be 110% sure....only the words of co-pilot are not enough. It is bloody fast, congrats to Mikko & Jarmo.
Completely right UCCI, and he is still only 0.6 and 1.1 in front of Solberg and Loeb. It also shows how difficult it is for new drivers to establish themselves in the top. Factory drivers have driven most of the stages several times more, test more miles, no worries about becoming a factory driver (perhaps to remain one), etc. etc.
What I mean to illustrate, we must be humble and understanding when we choose to criticize the b-drivers in the WRC. It is not easy to establish themselves among the top 5
In this channel you can watch a lot of footage from NORF, including the live stage coverage: https://www.youtube.com/user/alexander1ukr/videos
Never in dozens of NORFs I've visited I have seen spectators cheering and clapping for a chrash !!! Always I've seen spectators cheering and clapping for seeing the crew is ok !!! Plus the reaction for helping the crew after a chrash is close to zero seconds.
I really hope folks wouldn't judge any of the incidents they see based on youtube clips only :mark: