Very nice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
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Very nice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
So do I. For the last couple of years it has been "just another event" whereas in the IRC years it was really something special to look forward to.Quote:
Originally Posted by HaCo
The 208 is looking a lot better now than on Ypres. if Kris doesn't get the Citroen WRC seat hopefully they will put him in ERC with the 208 as compensation :)
I still don't follow tbh :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You mean they physically turned the engine, from transverse to longitudinally mounted?
I thought major role while jumping is played by aerodynamics (rear wing). Of course how driver approaches the jump is even more important, but doesn't it also aerodynamics related :confused: So when driver approaches on full throttle, the released down force "kicks" the car in front
before Finland one of the top drivers (forgot who) said you have to release the trottle just before the jump, otherwise you will end up like Novikov (with the yellow-black Citroen)Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
That's right, and it was related to aerodynamics as far as I rememberQuote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
The aero package of Fabia S2000 and the test car is basically same. It can not make so huge change in behavior from nose diving to nose rising. It's impossible. For me the only explanation is engine rotating opposite.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
No that would not be permitted in the rules or even physically possible without the length of the front over hang changing radically. I imagine Mirek is referring to a 180 deg rotation of the engine not a 90 deg rotation. Correct me if i'm wrong MirekQuote:
Originally Posted by RS
Yes, exactly, I meant 180° rotation. Possibly no rotation at all as the base engine is different one (2.0 FSI for S2000 and 1.8 TSI for R5). Maybe each of the stock engines rotates in different direction. I don't know.
It might have a lot to do with the weight of the engine too. Difference in weight will of course alter the weight distribution...
I don't think that that the turbo engine would be lighter than the atmospheric one (with all accessories). For significant change of balance there would have to be huge difference not just few kilos...
Not just the weather, Paul Nagle was co-driving too.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Anybody know who was co-driving on Meeke's test?
some guys dyno tested Fiesta R5... thay said around 300hp and 400nm...
I can't say it's true, just what I heard from quite reliable source.
br21 i will be glad if you could ask about the low down torque.Also about the antilag system.Quote:
Originally Posted by br21
I will have such car in my hands in mid December, so then will know much more. As for now I know there are 2 or 3 levels of anti-lag in Fiesta.
ok! ;)
It looks like we must change the name of this topic very soon. Actual R5 will live only one month...
More info here
Google translate is horrible here! I have already read this elsewhere a few days ago. FIA screwed up once again by messing around with whatever we start feeling comfortable with.
Also R4 is suppose to be cancelled from next year isn't it? Will they make R3->R2 or leave a gap there?
Wtf???
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Originally Posted by PLuto
FIA....Bullshit!
That has to be a joke right.. What purpose would changing the names around serve at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
confusing everybody...
Apart for us in the congregation, this change makes perfect sense and follow the single seater logic. F1 is the quickest, F2 second quickest and so on. Even my wife knows this fact, and most other people on earth.
We will swap our brain in three weeks, the rest does not know what a R3 car is, so not to worry!
You make a good point. I saw it as a pointless exercise - almost as if someone from FISA in the 80s wanted to change Group B to Group A, Group A to Group B and Group N to Group C etc. It almost doesn't matter - it's just a name.
But likening it to F1, F2, F3 shows it's a logical move I guess...
But to partial fans of the sport or people who do not necessarily follow the rules and regulations that closely, wouldn't it just prove to be way more confusing. Think of it from the point of view of just being a casual rally fan who attends local events and watches only what they see on t.v but does not follow it online. I can see the sense but the benefits of changing the names around wouldn't be worth the confusion. The R-Class regulations were put in place in the first place to try and tidy up the classes and to solve this confusion around classes..Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
It's a gigantic stupid joke from FIA.
Yes, it has a logic to name cars like F1-F2 BUT only if it is like that right from the start not after 6 years with hundreds of cars existing!
You can not rename all homologation forms, all sporting passes for every car around the world when it already exists. What will now come is an incredible mess in every possible point of view.
And not to mention that the 1-2-3(...) only was used for Formula racing. In normal cars converted to spec racers, there's always been from 1-pretty much normal to a higher number!
Gr.1 to Gr.5 (Gr.6 where sport prototypes)
N1 to N4, and A5 to A8
It's stupid! So... know my friends got a Ford Fiesta R1... and a Peugeot 208 R4!!! Classy hahahaha
Ford Fiesta R5+ won an event by Matthew Wilson: http://www.rallying-images.com/s/cc_ima ... 1385845169
What car it is? An upgrade of normal R5?
Btw, classification: http://ewrc-results.com/final.php?e=135 ... tages-2013
?irek ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
After the S2400 now this?? :p
Maybe the R5+ is the R5 but with a better sound from the exhaust and better acceleration out of slow corners :D
Surely someone on this forum went to the Grizedale Stages and can tell us what they saw of this R5+?
http://youtu.be/o0yGUSNYeE0?t=22s
Here it is, didn't notice until seeing the video but it has the WRC rear wing... Intriguing
I have no idea what was going on but could it be something meant to be used under national regulations?
I went, and took photos & videos.....he was down on the entry as a Fiesta R5.....but when he came into sight it was louder than a normal R5. Also, it had R5+ on the bonnet, and had a WRC rear wing. I asked on BRF, it has a bigger restrictor & exhaust.
I wonder is it only for National events, or it can run as a 'lesser' WRCar??
this car at video seems way more powerfull from r5 fiestas we have see.
What national events though? It would be an expensive way of doing the BTRDA series in Britain when you might as well use an old S2000 or the S2400 Fiesta. And of course interesting cars such as this are banned from BRC.
According to the Grizedale Stages website it is a "development model for 2014 (larger turbo)". Don't the R5 regs allow for a few developments throughout a car's lifespan? This may be, for want of a better term, 'Evo 1'. Although I'm at a loss to explain the WRC rear wing.
Or perhaps this is Malcolm Wilson showing what a WRC car based on the R5 regs would be like to try and convince the FIA...
It seems to me the wheel arches are wider
It's a 34mm restrictorI expect you could be on to something there, or maybe Matthew needs more power and a rear wing to help him win :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack4688`
It's a 34mm restrictor, what is normal R5?
32mm. Isn't the WRC restrictor 33mm?