Openwheel drivers to NASCAR

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Originally Posted by harvick#1

as for alot of others also

Carpentier is struggling with Evernham
Montoya shows very little signs of life but sometimes can run with the best
Hornish is off alot and rarely on
Allmendinger can barely qualify week in, week out
Franchitti is now injured but was struggling.

the IRL and Nascar would be way better off if they all went back to OW.

PT will just be another failure if he joins Nascar

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I thought he had already failed in NASCAR once before.

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Originally Posted by Chamoo

Edmontonians aren't going to show up at the race to cheer on Marty Roth as their Canadian Hero.

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It's sad that Canadians are so seemingly nationalistic that they need a competitive "horse in the race" to be interested.

Sure, I cheer for Marco and Graham because they're young American drivers continuing great legacies with bright futures ahead of them but I would still watch Indycar even without them.

I like Indycar for the racing and I would still watch every weekend knowing there wasn't a single American in the field.

A similar situation is hockey where Jeremy Roenick is an American in a league that is 99% Canadian and is known mostly for his mouth and personality. While he's funny, I'm kind of embarrased by him because he's washed up and thinks he's better than he actually is. I have no problem being a hockey fan when there are no American superstars.

I like the sport for the sport, not who is taking part in it.

That said it would be interesting to see him in an Indycar. Hey, the Sharks gave Roenick a chance. :p

I don't see alot of these open wheel boys having the transition success that someone like Stewart had. Seems like their rides are drying up and they figure Nascar is the place to land. We need some more grass root dirt track oval boys to move up.

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Originally Posted by -Helix-

It's sad that Canadians are so seemingly nationalistic that they need a competitive "horse in the race" to be interested.

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It's not that Canadians are so nationalistic about it, casual racing fans are nationalistic about it, just as casual American fans are nationalistic about their drivers.

You sir are more then a casual fan, most everyone on this forum is. We will watch the races whether the drivers are Asians, Africans, North Americans et cetera. But, the casual fan in North America needs something extra to force them to dish out the money to buy a ticket. I'm not sure if you are aware of what force PT has in Canada, he is Canada's best known driver, even ahead of Jacques Villeneuve.

The race will be no different whether PT is in it or not, but, the casual fans in Edmonton might decide to go check out the race to cheer on someone they like, and that isn't Marty Roth. The people need that little something extra to get them off the couch and out to the race track.

The race will be successful with or without PT, but, it will be a complete success if PT is there.

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Originally Posted by -Helix-

It's sad that Canadians are so seemingly nationalistic that they need a competitive "horse in the race" to be interested.

Sure, I cheer for Marco and Graham because they're young American drivers continuing great legacies with bright futures ahead of them but I would still watch Indycar even without them.

I like Indycar for the racing and I would still watch every weekend knowing there wasn't a single American in the field.

A similar situation is hockey where Jeremy Roenick is an American in a league that is 99% Canadian and is known mostly for his mouth and personality. While he's funny, I'm kind of embarrased by him because he's washed up and thinks he's better than he actually is. I have no problem being a hockey fan when there are no American superstars.

I like the sport for the sport, not who is taking part in it.

That said it would be interesting to see him in an Indycar. Hey, the Sharks gave Roenick a chance. :p

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What nonsense. JR had a great year for the Sharks, with TEN game winning goals, a 4 point performance in game 7 versus the Flames, and served as an on ice leader and all around great locker room guy all year. He's not washed up in any way, and is surprisingly humble. End OT rant.


As for PT, I'd rather see him in a truck than not racing at all.

I'd rather he not...

Am I the only one who would welcome the open wheel drivers IF and only IF they run in ARCA for a season, and then run in Busch? I prefer the Scott Speed method. The fact is, as cool as it is to see guys I know from other series trying the stock cars, I just don't see how anyone who struggles to run 30th and then takes out half the field really belongs in Cup. Especially when they got sent to Cup with little to no experience. It's a money thing, I understand, but I'd much rather see someone so commited to stock car racing that they actually bother to pay their dues and learn the ropes.

But I still would rather DC not...

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Originally Posted by JSH

Because he's washed up.

He WAS fast. He WAS good.

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As much as I know, the term "brain flatulence" was always associated with his IndyCar career.

But yes, if he has the pace he should be in IndyCar.

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Originally Posted by harvick#1

Speed will do slightly better than AJ would but not much.

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I think he will do significantly better, because when (if) he gets to the cup he will have honed his skills significantly through the lower classes of stock car racing. Allmendinger has not, and it shows. Besides, experience aside, I think Speed is more talented anyway.

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Originally Posted by oldhippie

he should come to nascar
im sure the good old boys would welcome him

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He won't.

Hi all, new member here.
Just a thought, am I the only one thats a little confused as to why everyone seems to think a OW racer converting to NASCAR absolutely MUST start off in ARCA or CTS before working their way up. But I don't remember reading in the recent "Kyle Busch to test F1, race in future" rubbish that he should start in F3, then go GP2 before getting to F1