[WRC] EKO Acropolis Rally Greece 2023 (7-10 Sep)

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Originally Posted by Rallyper

Unluck.

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Then Tänak’s never to blame

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Originally Posted by skarderud

Add Hirvonen to that list.

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Many others : Marku Alen (even so he can claim the 1978 FIA Cup for drivers ...), Kenneth Eriksson, Francois Delecour, Markko Martin, Michele Mouton to name a few. And of course all the old guard from before there was any WRC drivers championship

You can talk about bad luck, but of course this was Neuville´s mistake. Other drivers were driving through the same hole, but Thierry braked just before and then that hit was much stronger and the suspension was damaged.

Unfortunately he is just not at the same level than World Champions.

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Originally Posted by rp

You can talk about bad luck, but of course this was Neuville´s mistake. Other drivers were driving through the same hole, but Thierry braked just before and then that hit was much stronger and the suspension was damaged. Unfortunately he is just not at the same level than World Champions.

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Am i wrong or Huyndai's suspension is one of their weakness ? I recall a large number of occurences when such problem occured. Of course it is a driver's mistake to begin with, but maybe it is fragile - at least more than the Toyota "tank" ...

Is ss10 stopped?

Or just technical?

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Originally Posted by rp

You can talk about bad luck, but of course this was Neuville´s mistake. Other drivers were driving through the same hole, but Thierry braked just before and then that hit was much stronger and the suspension was damaged.

Unfortunately he is just not at the same level than World Champions.

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Maybe he´s not.
But you suggest he should break and steer exactly same as others? Else they are bad drivers always breaking down their cars?
As you probably understand every driver attacks corners in different ways. And this wasn´t any driver error in that sense he did smth wrong.

Sometimes there's a hole or rock on the line and that's rally. He didn't go wide or do some aggresive cut. He was braking where he needed to brake, unfortunately for him there was a water covered hole that was deeper than apparent at that point.

I get that some people are fans of drivers and there's some antagonism but for me it's absurd to blame the driver in this case. If you consider this driver error then you can go back and reconsider many times other drivers hit rocks on the line and so on. I will not say more on the matter.

We can also go to the conspiracy theory and since we know for a fact that Neuville is the team leader, car designer and president of Hyundai it's his fault that the suspension was too weak because he didn't design a good enough suspension arm, he should do better next time! (joking)

Braking was on point in particular case, there is an almost square left turn right after.
Pure unluck if You ask me, no signs of driver error.

Such a shame, I enjoyed thierry-seb-kalle fight and now the same old Toyota story..

Shame the ford is so unreliable. Podium was definitely possible for Ott

When Hyundai broke is Neuville's fault, when Toyota broke is bad luck of the driver...