grrr ... again lot of rain, race stoppd after 53 km in cars...
In motos great great drive by Kurt Caselli ! He was really impressive !
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grrr ... again lot of rain, race stoppd after 53 km in cars...
In motos great great drive by Kurt Caselli ! He was really impressive !
It's a good excuse to head back to Africa.Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
"There comes Loeb", "(censored:laugh :) ", "He's a sick man"...
:eek: :crazy:
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it's almost impossible to come back in Africa with a so mediatize race. Look at the situation in Mali and Southern Algeria ... it's worst than some years ago, when Dakar was threatened by terrorists ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
For the rain, I think it's the first year that two days are cancelled due to this ?
And what's more, torrents comes really fast, and 2 hours after, it has quite disappear ... It's infuriating because it's not long ... but it's at the time of the rally, not one day before or after, no just for the race ... :(
There was incredible pictures of car with road just falling under there ! Some days ago a crew was shown on French TV. He said he was driving and then the torrent comes, and the front of the car falls in this new torrent which didn't exist 1 minute before ... And his teammate had the same problem yesterday :D (Buggy MD Rallye)
onboard from the jump at 1,50 2013 Team SPEED Dakar Stage 10 - Planet RobbyQuote:
Originally Posted by Kielder
I have no doubt you're right, to head back to Africa is out of touch with the real world. Nevertheless, I always feel nostalgic every year when this race starts. The main problem is the one you stated: the Dakar is a mediated race. Nowadays, you can celebrate a race as the recent Africa Eco Race through Mauritania, but only because it's almost unknown. Although, as you say, the situation in Mali and Algeria is worse than some years ago, even Morocco is a dangerous country now, with Al-Qaeda recruiting people there. Also Senegal is in the sights of terrorists. (I teach History).Quote:
Originally Posted by vino_93
The rain was just that, exceptional circumstances. There is no better place to run a race like this on this globalized world than South America. There are no better videos of the Dakar than the ones from 1979 until 2007 that I keep in my hard disk. There is no better end for the Dakar than the Rose Lake of Dakar.
So, it's finished ...
Moto : what a race ! I thought that without Coma the race will be boring ... but no ! A lot of fight btw KTM, Yamaha and Husqvarna. I will retain some things : first of all, the incredible speed of Husqvarna. For sure it's good for the future ! And the great come-back from Yamaha. But I was really disppointed by Honda.
In term of drivers, we saw a lot of thing. First of all congrats to KTM Red Bull. 1-2, really great great rally ! Ruben Faria proves this year that he is able to be a leader now ... he has the speed. I wope he will have his chance.
But for me the most impressive guy was Joan Barreda. What a driver ! Not reliable for the moment, but it will come. And the certainty that their will have another fight spanish - french in the years coming when Despres and Coma will retire. Olivier Pain showed he is ready to be a professionnal driver, and a potentiel future winner. He made mistakes too, but he has the speed and the regularity. Great race by Casteu too, too bad he retired, and can't fight against Despres.
And the last point I will retain are the US guys. I really hope that Campbell and Caselli will be back. The first is the one who succeed in going fast the Honda. The other showed incredible speed ! I hope it will not be as the other american : coming, make 2, 3 years and then never come back ... Caselli as the potential to be a futur winner.
And congrats to Lopez Contardo and Jakes, who made great race. Lopez was really fast, but did as always too many mistakes, and Jakes was the Novitskiy of the moto class. First of all to do a good Dakar, you have to be reliable.
1 Despres (KTM)
2 Faria (KTM) 10'43
3 Lopez (KTM) 18'48
4 Jakes (KTM) 23'54
5 Pedrero (KTM) 55'29
6 Pain (Yamaha) 1h06'30
7 Rodrigues (Honda) 1h11'22
8 Pizzolito (Honda) 1h26'07
9 Verhoeven (Yamaha) 1h26'35
10 Goncalves (Husqvarna) 1h28'20
11 Przygonski (KTM) 1h33'59
12 Gouet (Honda) 1h45'40
13 Van Niekerk (KTM) 2h02'54
14 ******ter (Yamaha) 2h03'26
15 Grabham (KTM) 2h45'14
16 Ullevalseter (KTM) 3h00'56
17 Barreda (Husqvarna) 3h04'42
18 Metge (Yamaha) 3h12'081
19 Knuiman (KTM) 3h15'12
20 Prohens (Honda) 4h04'37
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31 Caselli (KTM) 6h03'40
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36 Duclos (Sherco) 7h38'06
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40 Campbell (Honda) 8h11'40
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69 Farres (Honda) 12h31'37
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125 Belaustegui (KTM) 72h46'57
Quad :
Another great victory for Patronelli family ! For the rest, we saw some good guys, but too inconstant. Sarel van Biljon, Sebastian Husseini, Rafal Sonik, Luka Laskawiec, Ignacio Casale, ... I hope one day a guy will be able to fight against Patronelli's.
1 Patronelli (Yamaha)
2 Casale (Yamaha) 1h50'35
3 Sonik (Yamaha) 3h16'49
4 Bonetto (Honda) 3h40'10
5 Palma (Can Am) 4h35'57
6 Husseini (Honda) 5h40'03
7 Smith (Honda) 5h46'09
8 Flores (Yamaha) 6h09'27
9 Clavigliasso (Can Am) 6h19'41
10 Gagliardi (Yamaha) 6h29'36
11 Maffei (Yamaha) 6h44'52
12 Duverney (Yamaha) 7h21'49
13 Laskawiec (Yamaha) 8h35'31
14 Delesque (Honda) 8h52'49
15 Liparotti (Yamaha) 9h10'29
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21 Van Biljon (E-ATV) 15h22'30
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26 Martinez Demetry (Can Am) 48h'50'25
Cars : the race was a bit dissapointing after Nasser's retirement. But nice victory for Peterhansel, and nice podium for de Villiers and Novitskiy. I'm a bit disapointed by the Toyotas. Alvarez and de Villiers showed great speed, but something missed ... Toyota should work with them.
The most important fact for me is the come back of the buggys for the victory. Qatar's and SMG were incredible.
In term of drivers, I would retain the come back of Guerlain Chicherit. I wasn't big fan of him, but what a race ! Same thing for Chabot. First year with a car able to win, and a very good race ! I hope he will be back next year.
Another good come back is Terranova. Really nice perfs with his old BMW. And of course Gordon, with his so own style.
1 Peterhansel (Mini)
2 de Villiers (Toyota) 42'22
3 Novitskiy (Mini) 1h28'22
4 Roma (Mini) 1h36'43
5 Terranova (BMW) 1h49'10
6 Sousa (Great Wall) 2h38'16
7 Chabot (SMG) 3h18'05 (1st 2WD)
8 Chicherit (SMG) 3h27'44 (2nd 2WD)
9 Thomasse (MD Rallye) 4h35'32 (3rd 2WD)
10 ALvarez (Toyota) 4h45'48
11 Olholm (Toyota) 4h46'13
12 Garafulic (Mini) 4h46'20
13 Kahle (SAM) 5h33'33
14 Gordon (Hummer) 5h38'15
15 Malysz (Toyota) 6h06'02
16 Vasiliev (G Force) 7h01'56
17 Lavieille (Dessoude) 7h05'35
18 Errandonea (SMG) 7h21'22
19 Zhou (Great Wall) 7h27'51
20 Coffaro (Toyota) 7h48'34
21 Gadasin (G Force) 8h26'29
22 Vigouroux (Chevrolet) 10h45'42
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27 Foj (Toyota) 12h29'52 (1st T2)
28 Gibon (Toyota) 12h43'01 (2nd T2)
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31 Alheraiz (Toyota) 1512'52 (3rd T2)
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90 O'Hare (Bowler) 69h24'48
Trucks : what a race between Tratra's, Kamaz and Iveco ! And nice victory for Kamaz ! They are back :) Even if they didn't do an impressive race ... but the most important, another time, is the reliabilty ... and this year Kamaz were, and other no.
Rally too many mistakes in Iveco. Stacey rolled two many times, de Rooy made mistakes and had mechanical problems ...
And Tatra deserves a strong team. It seems to be hard to fight without a good team with them. Kolomy and Loprais are good drivers ... would be better for them if they drive together in a strong team :)
1 Nikolaev (Kamaz)
2 Mardeev (Kamaz) 37'10
3 Karginov (Kamaz) 37'57
4 de Rooy (Iveco) 41'16
5 Kolomy (Tatra) 1h01'47
6 Loprais (tatra) 1h16'10
7 Versluis (Man) 2h32'09
8 Van Vliet (Man) 3h22'13
9 Kuipers (Iveco) 3h53'50
10 van den Bosch (Daf) 4h23'52
11 van den Brink (Ginaf) 4h26'03
12 Smink (Ginaf) 4h35'26
13 Biasion (Iveco) 4h48'08
14 Mardeev (Kamaz) 5h27'44
15 van Eerd (Daf) 7h39'24
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60 Paturaud (Mercedes) 294h54'58
Although it has lost some its meaning, it's one of the most beautiful trophies in the world. These two guys could sell them by weight!
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vino_93: I was told today a thing I didn't know. Next year there will be new regulations for trucks with smaller engines. Now Loprais used Deutz engine with 16 litre capacity but Kolomę had engine Buggyra with only 12,5 litre capacity which shall be ok for 2014 so we might find him even stronger next year.