Pirelli

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Originally Posted by ioan

I could but I won't. Why should I accept ungrounded claims?

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Remember how you boast that "I'll always try to back up" everything you post?

Here's a few snippets about Pirelli for you, so that you no longer have to refer to these claims as "ungrounded":

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And pit-stops are likely to prove key again this season after Pirelli replaced Bridgestone as tyre suppliers, with the tyres specifically designed to be less durable in an effort to increase the number of pit-stops.

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(BBC News, March 2011)

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Pirelli's motorsport boss Paul Hembery confirmed that Pirelli has responded to the desire that tyre strategy influences the entertainment-value of grands prix. "We have been asked to produce tyres to improve the show," he said. "But if we are very criticised by the teams or the drivers, yes, we will be able to bring to the next race very durable tyres."

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(ESPN, November 2010)

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The teams also placed demands on the tyres characteristics on track whilst the FIA made requests regarding the tyre’s durability. [...] Hembery reveals “I’m guessing that we will have a number of races where two tyre changes will be required. The wear rate has been engineered to be higher than in 2010. The engineers are different they would like one set of tyres then concentrate on the car but the team principles think differently! It a different design input, we could make them last the whole season, but we also want entertaining races!”

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(Racecar Engineering, January 2011)

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Asked about the request from Bernie Ecclestone to produce tyres that deliberately deteriorate - a move which caused much flak for the Italian manufacturer, not least from Pitpass, Tronchetti said: "We were asked to create more emotions and we did it, with safe tyres lasting enough but not too much, which is really very difficult."

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(Pitpass, May 2011)



Will you now accept what everybody else seems to find simple: that Pirelli were asked to make less durable tyres for 2011?

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Will you now accept what everybody else seems to find simple: that Pirelli were asked to make less durable tyres for 2011?

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Think I heard a sharp intake of breath....... :laugh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZhrbQL9S5I#t=2m13

The Pirelli tyres are providing some great racing this year. I think they have got it just about perfect.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Will you now accept what everybody else seems to find simple: that Pirelli were asked to make less durable tyres for 2011?

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I accept that.
Will you lot accept that I do not believe the hogwash?
Doesn't look like it, reading this thread. I wonder if it has to do with trolling around or somethings else, worse than it.

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Originally Posted by ioan

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You think that Pirelli are changing tire compounds due to 'small minded fans' complaining?! I hope you were joking!
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The pressure that brought the change is from teams and from the market, and that is what matters most in a competitive environment.

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No. But the marketing campaign directed against Pirelli IS targeted at those small minded souls who can't grasp the difference between a road tyre that is designed for 20,000km and a race tyre that needs to last less than 200.

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Originally Posted by Sonic

No. But the marketing campaign directed against Pirelli IS targeted at those small minded souls who can't grasp the difference between a road tyre that is designed for 20,000km and a race tyre that needs to last less than 200.

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Or maybe those poor souls have seen the quality of a Michelin and Bridgestone F1 tire, just as fast as the Pirelli or faster and able to run over 300 kms. That's the problem here, no one is comparing F1 specific tires with road car tires.

But we are not in a tyre war Ioan. I have never doubted that if Stone or Charlietwins were here, Pirelli would be being kicked to the kerb.

However, they have a right to learn their craft without their efforts being lambasted. They have not built sub par or dangerous tyres, and, whether planned or not, the rubber has created good racing.

In short...I don't see what your problem is.

This is from Autoevolution :

Marco Tronchetti presents the new Pirelli F1 tire
In an effort to boost the show in Formula One a little bit, new tire supplier Pirelli is set to introduce tires that will make for multiple pit stop strategies in 2011. According to a report from Italian magazine Autosprint, the new compound tires developed by Pirelli will require approximately 3 stops per race, depending on certain conditions (tire wear, weather and so on).

Ever since it won the tender to become sole F1 supplier for the upcoming 3 years, the Italian tire maker has vowed to improve the F1 show by developing more aggressive tires for 2011.

Additionally, the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) has held all the necessary discussions with Pirelli to design such tires, with the Autosprint report suggesting that the new hard compound will last for approximately 30 laps. Considering that the top 10 drivers on the grid will start off with the tires used in Q3, that would easily ensure at least 2 pit stops per driver every other weekend.

Meanwhile, Pirelli is on its way to finalizing the development of its 2011 compounds by doing a 2-day wet session, at night, on the Yas Marina circuit in Abu Dhabi. Spanish driver Pedro de la Rosa has already done some mileage in the 2009-spec Toyota (Pirelli test car) last night and is scheduled to complete the Abu Dhabi programme later today.

The weather and track conditions in Abu Dhabi this week have been carefully evaluated by Pirelli in order for them to complete the development of their wet and intermediate tires. This is the manufacturer's last session before the first group test of the winter, to kick off on February 1st, yet Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery admitted further changes may occur in terms of tire development following the 4 group tests in February and March.

“These tests will provide us with useful information to finalize our tire development process for Formula One,” said Hembery.

This is from Autoevolution :

"In an effort to boost the show in Formula One a little bit, new tire supplier Pirelli is set to introduce tires that will make for multiple pit stop strategies in 2011. According to a report from Italian magazine Autosprint, the new compound tires developed by Pirelli will require approximately 3 stops per race, depending on certain conditions (tire wear, weather and so on).

Ever since it won the tender to become sole F1 supplier for the upcoming 3 years, the Italian tire maker has vowed to improve the F1 show by developing more aggressive tires for 2011.

Additionally, the Formula One Teams Association (FOTA) has held all the necessary discussions with Pirelli to design such tires, with the Autosprint report suggesting that the new hard compound will last for approximately 30 laps. Considering that the top 10 drivers on the grid will start off with the tires used in Q3, that would easily ensure at least 2 pit stops per driver every other weekend.

Meanwhile, Pirelli is on its way to finalizing the development of its 2011 compounds by doing a 2-day wet session, at night, on the Yas Marina circuit in Abu Dhabi. Spanish driver Pedro de la Rosa has already done some mileage in the 2009-spec Toyota (Pirelli test car) last night and is scheduled to complete the Abu Dhabi programme later today.

The weather and track conditions in Abu Dhabi this week have been carefully evaluated by Pirelli in order for them to complete the development of their wet and intermediate tires. This is the manufacturer's last session before the first group test of the winter, to kick off on February 1st, yet Pirelli's motorsport director Paul Hembery admitted further changes may occur in terms of tire development following the 4 group tests in February and March.

“These tests will provide us with useful information to finalize our tire development process for Formula One,” said Hembery."