It boggles my mind to see people that still think Jeremy is innocent of taking meth.
Only reason I can think of is that it is the "usual" nascar bashers and they jump on any opportunity to take issue with anything Nascar does.
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It boggles my mind to see people that still think Jeremy is innocent of taking meth.
Only reason I can think of is that it is the "usual" nascar bashers and they jump on any opportunity to take issue with anything Nascar does.
By it's past practices NASCAR has invited the bashers to have free rein in their opinions. Anyone with a functioning brain and some common sense who continues to defend Jeremy needs a smack upside the head with a clue stick. Jeremy is a junkie and a very stupid one at that. When it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a freakin' duck.Quote:
Originally Posted by muggle not
First of all I said I "think" jeremy was on meth. But why has NASCAR not followed correct procedures and proved it? It's not my opinion the tests were flawed. The tests were flawed. Had this been the police conducting the test, it would have been thrown out of court. Why did the judge set aside his first suspension? And why did NASCAR allow Jeremy to drive after the first test came back positive? If it smells fishy it's not always a fish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky1329
There is the little issue of "innocent until proven guilty". It's kind of an underpinning of our legal system.Quote:
Originally Posted by PA Rick
NASCAR did not conduct the tests. They were done by an outside company.
So Mayfield is not guilty? I "THINK" he is but until a test is conducted by grownups we have to give him the benefit of the doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
NASCAR contracted the company that conducted the tests. When the stories refer to "independent tests" they are by other testing agencies, not those chosen by NASCAR.
Policies and procedures.
Try reading again, I said no such thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by PA Rick
You asked why the judge set aside the suspension in the hearing. That hearing was not the Trial, it was just a preliminary hearing, so therefore, Mayfield had not been "proven" to have done anything wrong in a court of law at that time.
No, it was a temporary injunction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee Roy
some quotes:
" U.S. District Court Judge Graham Mullen concluded the "likelihood of a false positive in this case is quite substantial." "
and
" (Mayfield lawyer) Diehl argued that federal guidelines allow an individual a 72-hour window to have an independent lab analyze a sealed backup sample. He said that when Aegis tested the backup "B" sample two days after the "A" sample came back positive, Mayfield lost any opportunity to challenge the results because the seal had been broken on the second sample.
NASCAR lawyer Paul Hendrick countered that argument, saying the governing body is a private company that does not need to follow the federal guidelines."
I don't even like Jeremy but give him a fair shake THEN suspend him.
See, this is why I keep saying we need to wait for the case to go to court, where hopefully we can wade through this stuff efficiently. I was prepared to defend Mayfield after this stuff got started, but as many of you have noted, his behavior has only brought more suspicion on him. Still, speculating on observed behavior, arguing over sealed and unsealed samples, and basing judgement on all of that to me is going nowhere. It's not been proven, yet. Has Mayfield exhibited suspcious behavior which has made his case more difficult? Certainly. Has NASCAR help its own case by acting typically arrogant and allowing for sloppy procedures by an independent company? It would seem so. The only way to get to the truth is to take this to court, as quickly as possible. I guess I'm just getting tired of all the speculation and want to see the deal happen in court. Sort of like comparing...well, you know...with a night with Beyonce Knowles.
We all want to see this mess in court.
Here is the scoop tho. NASCAR's only real error here was allowing the second sample of that first test to be done by AEGIS. That still doesn't mean it is invalid, just that it can be questioned by Mayfield's attorney's in court. Still doesn't prove Mayfield's innocence. It could be valid and likely is. That is why NASCAR I am sure was so quick to go for a second sample after the injuction. The fact Mayfield took 7 hours to comply ( a violation in itself), and the games that have gone on with it says Mayfield isn't helping his cause at all. What is more, the second sample was a "witnessed" test, unlike the tests Mayfield keeps claiming he is passing. The second sample from that second test is SEALED and it is the smoking gun that will do in Jeremy. NASCAR didn't allow AEGIS to mess this up and they will get him.
I would defend Jeremy if there was evidence of a conspiracy anywhere but in his drug addled mind, but there is WAY too much that doesn't add up on Jeremy's part for anyone sane to not conclude he is guilty. He still will have that day in court, and in theory he can throw doubt around enough maybe a judge will buy it. I doubt it. NASCAR says they have affadavits from people besides the Step Mother stating they know of Mayfield's drug use. THey all cant be nuts as the Step mom was accused of being.
Nope...we need a trial, but I think until then Mayfield not racing is the right call. NASCAR has safety standards and a right to police its series. They are a private operation and reserve the right to restrict access to the track. That judge putting the injunction in telling NASCAR they HAD to allow Mayfield on track was a bit of joke IMO. This isn't access to the public library or the city hall we are talking about, it is being allowed to run 190mph at Daytona....
The trial isn't on schedule until Sept, 2010 and Mayfield sold his team. Nobody will hire him and the court said he can't race in NASCAR. In the meantime he has to deal with a lawsuit filed by a supplier for his race team and another one filed by his stepmother. He has finally shut up and stopped digging himself into a deeper hole. By the time this thing is settled people will be asking themselves, "Jeremy who?". He's pretty much over.