I'll be happy Sanremo to come back in WRC. It just has it's unique atmosphere and stages. Sardegna is nice, but Sanremo is just classics.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
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I'll be happy Sanremo to come back in WRC. It just has it's unique atmosphere and stages. Sardegna is nice, but Sanremo is just classics.Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto
Sanremo has the best and most demanding tarmac stages in the world...it deserves to be in the Wrc calendar, period ! :D
There would be something wrong if Sanremo wasn’t in either the WRC, or ERC. It is one of the few iconic events, and a ‘Classic’. In reality, it needs the return of the Gravel stages. Could RedBull help with financing of the event? It should be in the WRC – Sardegna is a good event, but is just another dusty gravel event – and we have enough of them.
I think it is a lot different to Spain. I've never been there, but from the images I've seen, you can't really compare...Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
Just to give you an idea of a Condroz Rally with typical Belgian weather: Condroz Rally 2009 - Onboard Lauwaert/Pattyn - Renault Clio R3 - YouTube
To pretend being the best in the world, one rally must have a "tree"... I haven't seen such thing in San Remo...Quote:
Originally Posted by pino
You missed the big smilie/smiley at the end of the first sentence. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
I've been to rallies in both countries. Some day the sun might shine in Belgium.. :)
Forgive my ignorance...but what's this "tree" ? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SlowSon
Almost half of the stages used during IRC events doesn't have enough media/spectators access, very few safe spectators areas (many people, these years, you have could seen lots of people in the hairpins... so dangerous in case of slide or late-braking!), a small service area. They must re-design the rally, searching new areas, etc... that's a long work to do, almost impossible to do in 6 months!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazza555)
For the moment, the weather is good (I am 150km from Huy, but Ok). But the last 2 weeks, there has been a lot of rain! Let's see what the next weeks will bring (I hope a lot of rain :) )Quote:
Originally Posted by noel157
http://www.motorsportforums.com/euro...ml#post1073164 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
That just sounds soooooo familiar :D If you don't have the iconic "tree" you can't clearly pretend one Rally is the absolute best of the Rallies in the World :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pino
Could we rephrase misters Grönholm & Rautiainen: "Tree is enough!"Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Oh, yeah. It is enough to take you out....unfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
It would be great to see the WRC back to Chiusdino.
http://i46.tinypic.com/wgu58w.jpg
Was there an issue with it the last time a round was held?? The championship needs rounds that attract massive crowds and generate a genuine ( not pr generated) buzz around the event. The traditional rounds always attracted great crowds and it has to be said in the recent era of the last 10/15 years, by and large have not had spectator safety issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
This year we have had already almost 20 fatalities (about which I know) in the sport and the numbers are growing every year (except one all on asphalt). Some accident involving spectators in WRC event is the worst what we can get. The safety in Sanremo in last couple of years was awful and it was a big luck nothing serious happened although it was often close (for example this year with Andreucci). It really matters. This sport can't afford growing number of dead bodies.Quote:
Originally Posted by gravelman
Mirek, I'm not for one minute questioning the importance of safety, as a competitor and spectator I knw this. I will concede I was not aware of the issues on his event in the last couple o years. I agree that safety cannot be compromised but I feel that the classic events do draw greater crowds, but as long as they are managed efficiently I'm sure they can return, because god knows the series needs flagship events. But again I agree with your point regarding the importance of safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I sure agree that Sanremo is a classic and it would be nice to have it back in WRC but as someone already pointed out the stages which are now used for IRC are very difficult to cope with crowds (with WRC there will be sure more people than now). Very few access roads and often no space for spectators to stand.
By the way this is the moment of Andreucci from this years edition. Good that he kept it on the road...
IRC 2012 Day 2 Sanremo Andreucci Big Spins - YouTube
That's why bringing back the gravel stages will do only good, besides they are part of that classics called "Sanremo".Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
You could put Monte Carlo on a par with sanremo if not worse!
I have to agree with you Mirek. That was a disaster narrowly averted. It is unbelievable that spectators were permitted in the run off area of that intersection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Do they really believe that concrete barriers are safe for both crews and spectators??!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by sollitt
Ford also pulled the plug of a Belgian ford plant: 4500 loose job before the end of 2014 and probably 5000 more in company's that supply parts to Ford Genk. Wondering if the Wrc exit has anything to do with this.
Sad day for Belgian industry. :(
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I work at Ford, they must use insane amounts on warranty cases...
Do we really need another "two the same rallies" in calendar? Sardinia is great for many reasons as well as Corsica, there is no point for Alsace and San Remo.
You mean for the cars that will be produced the coming year in Genk? Was thinking the same.
Pitty they didn't find a solution to keep the plant open.
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According to your logic we'd only have Monte, Sweden-Norway combo, Greece, Finland, France and muddy GB in the WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfun
What are New Zealand & Australia like?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Totally different.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
& The classic Sanremo & Germany? They are quite unique imo.
Stefanvv, my previous post was a reply to rallyfun's post I quoted.
My take on the subject is that every rally is different and posses its' own challenges for the crews. Meaning we can't say that additional tarmac rally would be too much because it resembles other tarmac rallies due to the road surface.
Yes, I just filled the gaps ;) Every Rally is different and everyone has its own preference.
How did you come to it? If you don't see similarity between Monte and San Remo, Germany and Alsace then you have a problem with "logic". I didn't see any similar rallies in the calendar appart from those mentioned. So to make things logical lets bring back unique Corsica and leave alone unique Sardinia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
Monte don't have anything to do with these, it is on snow/ice when the weather is proper.Quote:
Originally Posted by rallyfun
Do you remember when was the last time the weather was proper? Run San Remo in January and you have the same rally. All WRC needs is more variety of surface, there is only one snow rally out of 13 and three (two twin rallies) in asphalt, that doesn't make sens.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
I would love to see the old San Remo with mixed surface, running in Tuscany. Those were really nice stages with proper show. Is there any chance for that or if it comes back it will be all Tarmac?
Good video of Lappi's test in Spain. It includes some onboard footage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVu52KrXl0Q
Excited to see him progress over the next couple of years, looks a real talent. And slight off-topic, but when the Fabia is mainly white you can really appreciate how good looking a car it really is!
The PT Autosport article says that this eventual Sanremo WRC return is based in the mixed surface scheme that made the italian rally an iconic event.Quote:
Originally Posted by makinen_fan
Esapekka mentioned some overheating problems with Dmack tyres and hopes that weather will be a little bit colder at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kielder