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LAPPI: Tommi Mäkinen confirms to @yleurheilu that @EsapekkaLappi will contest all remaining #WRC rounds in 2017 @TGR_WRC
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LAPPI: Tommi Mäkinen confirms to @yleurheilu that @EsapekkaLappi will contest all remaining #WRC rounds in 2017 @TGR_WRC
Completely deserved. Faster than Hanninen on basically every stage (without issues). Ages ahead of Levfebre.
4th on power stage in his first WRC rally with every single WRC driver competing it!!
Also shows that Toyota is genuinely fast and it's not only Latvala's driving.
That's nice to hear he'll be joining them for the trip down under.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
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Thank you guys for another great rally coverage and commentary. I enjoyed reading through it.
Here's a link to a video from Gilbert's crash on the Fafe jump. Didn't see anyone post it. https://twitter.com/RallyingUK/statu...26984988356608
Huh? Think you misunderstood, Tanak had no issues with dust.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Sorry, yes I misunderstood. Shouldn't have watched ice hockey in the same time...Quote:
Originally Posted by SubaruNorway
Helge Gerdes*@HelgeGerdes
Wow. 661.83 vs. 668.04 kms of lead in #WRC between @MSportLtd & @HMSGOfficial; 38 vs 39 stage wins & 115 vs 103 top 3 times. Game on!
https://media.tenor.co/images/a7017c...2e2d/tenor.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by A FONDO
Leave him, he's just N.O.T.'s henchman/servant.Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
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Andreas Mikkelsen Crash - Fafe
https://youtu.be/XRp_dTLjUdI
Strange. Couldn't he have continued?Quote:
Originally Posted by cambao97
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This guys of WRCantabria are really great. Everytime an excellent job by them, congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
If he did then there is clear evidence that they are ON SS without the harnesses on.. They couldn't have time to buckle up..And that is serious penalty...Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
Rally Trivia
Portugal 2017 is first #WRC event since Safari 2002 where no driver won consecutive stages
Thanks @rockollector for research
Hole in the radiator, you would think there was enough beer around in Fafe though! Road section was a bit long anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by steve.mandzij
I usually do when I spin...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
That's a 1min penalty, still would have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by janvanvurpa
Fantastic Rally de Portugal! Probably one of the best I’ve seen since ’82. I’m too tired for big analyses, just two thoughts: every fan must try to see ‘17 epic cars driven by today outstanding drivers on a WRC event. It’s a memorable experience and no one should condemn this or that driver for a mistake, before actually see how fast and wild the cars go. Overall, big congrats to Ogier, Ingrassia and MSport and a huge thanks to RdP organizers: viva o WRC, viva Portugal!
All works drivers have scored ps points. Although Hänninen and Lefebvre only through weather conditions...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The strange thing is that they actually support chromecast, but only way to do it is if you use the browser on your phone. Then you will have the cast function.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Have stopped using WRC+ but was like that last year. To cast chrome browser window with a computer is also a solution, but not as good the original cast function.
Because im bored at work at the moment and we are basically half way through the season im making a little longer review.
Ogier: so the first time after Monte the champ had the car like he wants. Didnt hear him complain at all about the car or set-up. i was afraid when he gets things to his liking he would blitz the field and no one has a chance but it wasnt the case. Yes, he was fast and he won but it was more due to others having problems or making mistakes. Now it is much harder to beat him in the championship when he has things to his liking, the others have to try a lot more but it is far from over.
Tänak: Just watched the onboard comparison between Tänak and Ogier from stage 12. Before the mistake Tänak was 5 secs up on him. Very clean and nice driving from Tänak on that stage up to that little mistake but you dont need much to ruin your rally. After rally Tänak said that the set-up was the best he has had this season but the problem for him is still the understeer and because of that he already had couple of moments before and that mistake on SS12. They will have a 2 days test next week and he is trying to fix the understeer to not make silly mistakes again. So definitely theres even more speed to come from him this season. But he is being very honest and says that he just isnt good enough at the moment to win. His aim is TOP3 in the end of the season.
for those who havent seen Tänak's mistake it is here http://sport.err.ee/597196/video-kas...rustuse-lohkus
Neuville: portugal isnt his favourite place but still a very good rally for him and great speed like always. Great power stage points again and will be giving Ogier a run for his money as long as he isnt making a mistake. Great battle ahead.
Latvala: like Tänak, ruined his rally with a silly mistake. Overall a very good season so far, still has a shot for the championship IF Toyota can keep it up with the others and he isnt making anymore mistakes. Definitely needs some wins to keep up the championship hopes But in reality i think he and Tänak will battle for the third place in WDC.
Sordo: quiet 3rd place IMO, he is going really well this season, great to see after so many fans have written him down.
Paddon: Shame about the problems, he was a real contender for the win IMO. Some breathtaking splits and stage times before his problems. i hope his luck returns for rest of the season and great to see that the speed has been back now for couple of rallies, but yeah, that rotten luck.
Breen: this guy never stops impressing, he is just progressing so nicely. for sure he is gonna have some podiums this season and big future ahead. I hope he will the best placed Citroen driver in the end of the season and i see no reason why he cant be if he continues like that.
Evans: has surprised me many times this season with his speed. but we will see how he goes on if the season progresses. The pattern with him every season is that he is very good in the beginning of the season at special rallies but when the championship returns to europe and to normal and faster gravel rallies then he tends to fade away.
Lappi: did exactly like i was expecting from him. Nothing special but not bad either. Great power stage! Will be interesting to see his progression through the season.
Havent got to say anything special about Meeke, Lefebvre, Hanninen and Ostberg other than Mads has also surprised me couple of times.
so half way through the season the TOP3 drivers i would have in my team are Ogier, Tänak and Neuville and what a team that would be!
I was about to ask about Tanak being in the team rather than Latvala, and then I remembered that Ogier and Latvala cannot be teammates.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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My iOS WRC app has a cast button but I cannot change the play position (rewind/forward). I'm pretty sure I cast the Tour de Corse power stage stream through that as well as many highlight videos for sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Daniel_hoy
Honestly, I'm beginning to think the reason Ogier always wins the championship is because of his consistency rather than speed. The silly mistakes you constantly see Latvala, Meeke and Neuville making? Ogier very rarely makes mistakes like that, and if he does, he's lucky enough to usually get away without serious damage or time lost. Even if Ogier doesn't win the rally, he is usually not far away, and scoring good points that sustain his lead.
He wins through sheer precision. His rivals do all the work for him, by crashing.
Imagine if Neuville hadn't thrown away his Monte and Sweden wins. He would have been leading the championship comfortably.
Why not? When the car worked he was setting fastest stage times. When he was penalised by being second on the road he was still fast and didn't crash so why should he be down about his performance?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
This puzzles me, how is Ogier so lucky? Look at his season. In Monte he slid to a snowbank and run wide to a field and touched a bank - nothing happened. In Sweden and Mexico he spun. In Argentina he went again into a bank and also went wide off the road but nothing happened. Is it his driving style that saves him at these incidents?Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
Well, Neuville was also lucky in Argentina on his moment...
His offs are usually at low speed where he can afford to push the car little more than normal, except that off-road excursion in Argentina, but that seemed like a pace note problem rather than over the limit off, and the speed wasn't big there either. So yes, it is his pacenotes/driving which makes the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Couldn't have put it in to words better than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
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Ogier knows how to avoid stones and other hazards, how to save tyres and overall knows when to push and when to take it carefully. That's why he is so good. And of course when he's pushing, he's faster than anyone. But he's also lucky.
He even said it in Monte himself after running on the field. He knew that there was open field so he pushed a bit more and it was too much. In the Monte case he comes from the area but even on other rallies with mostly same stages every year and the endless hours they spend watching the onboards from previous years and/or recce these kind of things are possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by stefanvv
Compare that with Meeke in Portugal who went wide on just about the single corner of the rally with large concrete blocks on the outside. Also while talking about it, Neuville had basically 3 big moments in Argentina (2 jumps - SS2 and SS4? (where meeke went off), and then SS10).
If Ogier keeps top3 speed for rest of the year he should have no problems to win the champ.
The question is, if he manages to win the WDC & the Manufacturer's title this year and Ford doesn't comeback, will he honestly leave M-Sport after all the development work this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by mknight
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Tough call. Where is he gonna go anyway? I'm pretty sure Neuville wouldn't like to have his biggest rival in his own team, Latvala seems to have a real downer around Ogier plus Seb already ditched Toyota for M-Sport this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
So we're left with Citroen who surely would like a competent Frenchman in the team. But they are having a nightmare and it would be at least as risky to bet on them building a challenging car for next year as M-Sport.
May I just add that if M-Sport wins even either of the titles and Ford don't come back they are batshit crazy anyway.
And to add to the equation that Citroen and Hyundai already have contracts for their current drivers for next year (apparently Toyota does not). Although I'm not sure if Citroen would put Lefebvre into a fourth car if Ogier would give them a call?
But if Ford isnt coming back then he will leave 100%. i wrote it already some pages back that Wilson said it clearly yesterday that they will survive this year but not next one if Ford doesnt come back and without Ford they cant afford keep Seb another year or years.
i havent watched the red bull TV review myself but i saw these quotes from autosport forum:
"His interview on red bull tv today was interesting though - would be a brave person who puts money on him staying at M sport next year
Basically said team are waiting on ford to decide whether to come back as full factory effort, if they don't he'll be off elsewhere as he needs to drive for a works team in 2018 "
I don't think that's completely true. Yes he's very consistent, but he's incredibly quick as well. His records from 2013 prove that.Quote:
Originally Posted by MentalParadox
When I was at the autosport chatting some m-sport guys said Red Bull pay his 7.5 million.
Seems possible?
They also said they redesigned the switches etc so it was like the Polo & moved the passenger footrest for Julienne. All of which was done over the Xmas break.
That would just make it all the more crazy for Ford not to return though. M-Sport will have trouble to stay in contention in terms of development and they lose THE driver of the present. Ford still uses M-Sports efforts for publicity, the return on investment must look right if you consider how much more they could do as a full factory team.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
But who knows. Business people are weird.