we haven t see this advantage at rally Finland,only at national Finn rallies are evos in advantage?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
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we haven t see this advantage at rally Finland,only at national Finn rallies are evos in advantage?...Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Top speed sections? about 2-3% of stage kms?At rest 96-97% of stages the advantage is for the s2000 car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
In rally Finland the group N cars have to obey FIA regs no? As Mirek said evo's on national championship aren't exactly FIA approved, but then again im not sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Let's see how Lappi does in the next rounds.
Do you know how many drivers have won with a s2000 car group N evos-subarus?In every country they have rallies. And not for seconds,but with minutes easily.Quote:
Originally Posted by liposh
Maybe he has potential,but dont be in a hurry to make him a star or a future champion cause we haven t see from him something like that.At asphalt we haven t see him to rally against fast drivers.
There are other countries with some bigger restrictor for evos(Spain),but the s2000 cars are way faster.The difference from n4 to a s2000 car is not 20 bhp more or 2 kg of torque.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Rules in Finnish championship are different than FIA rules. Don't remember how exactly last year because they were again changed this year (in favor of gr.N cars).Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Every country has its specifics You know. You can't compare Spain and Finland, absolutely no, sorry. Also in countries where they have specific stages and ethanol powered evos those are often faster (Hungary, Bulgaria, Belgium, Netherlands).Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
The discussion is quite pointless. Lappi so far managed to achieve all targets and quite immediately. I can't see how better he could have been. The only mishap was the RMC but that event caught far more...
Anybody got or see any clips specific to WRC 2 and 3 competitors? A few WRC 2 cars some of the clips I've seen but very few and no WRC 3 cars.
Anybody got or see any clips specific to WRC 2 and 3 competitors? A few WRC 2 cars on some of the clips I've seen but very few and no WRC 3 cars.
@ Dimviii, Mirek and others... We need a Finn who knows the stages and regulations very well to sort this out :p I think that, no matter how much you change rules for Gr.N cars, a S2000 will ALWAYS be faster on technical stages. In Belgium S2000 cars are Always faster than N4 and R4 Mirek. ;) Even on stages with plenty of straights and only junctions, a S2000 is slightly better (fair enough, as the difference in costs is big too). If a Gr.N/R4 driver is faster, it is because the difference between the level of drivers is huge.
About my Rally Portugal, great experience! First time I was coordinator for NCRS. For the teams it's a great event, great organisation, nice stages (very rough but beautiful), beautiful region etc... Many spectators will disagree, but I wouldn't mind if the rally stays in Algarve. :)
Mirek his targets are achieved,but they are low targets.I want to see some big targets.I want to see him against good drivers with same s2000 cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Targets against grN cars against National rallies,or at Czech rally sprints will not show for me any potential.
Probably big targets are too early for him at the moment. But he has big potential, I agree.
EDIT: In big targets I mean WRC 2014
True, in hands of capable driver these are faster than S2000Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Lappi needs(deserves) time that's for sure. I don't like to bet on drivers since it's easier to say that someone is not going to make it opposed to saying that someone is the next really fast driver. My money is on Lappi to be the next fast Finn. When I look at him in my eyes I see "f**k it, I'm going to drive fast no matter what the opposition thinks" mentality :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
For sure he hasn't driven many tarmac stages, but he has a karting background so that helps.
On the positive side there is plenty. Last year was his first year with a 4wd car and Juha Salo as a benchmark is a good one. Salo is fast with the evo and beating him in every rally takes skill. A lot of skill. In NORF Lappi took the fight to Ogier at some stages. For sure he went off when the power steering failed, but what did he have to loose at that point? Last but not least his brain seems to be working and he seems to stand pressure well. With his codriver Ferm they make a strong team in the car.
I´m not saying you are completely wrong, but have you seen incar of Juha Salo in Artic Rally? That represents very well the stages in Finland, which, as you surely know about is very, very fast. (I know EPL didn´t take part in that rally, but still...)Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
When I was in NORF in 2011 Salo with FIA Evo X R4 did very competitive times with SWRC. He was several times on SS podium positions behind Hänninen and Tänak, sometimes between them. He had his troubles later but speed-wise he was competitive. In FRC rules for his car are different.
His SS positions in SWRC NORF 2011: 5., 4., R (mechanical), 6., 4., 3., 4., 3., 2., 7. (SSS), 4., 4., 4., 3., 4., 3., 5., 6., 8., 8., 8., 8. (some problems in all last stages).
Very nice. The Sordo photo is awsome
dont know if anyone noticed, but best of rallye live didnt bring any videos from portugal. does anyone know what´s behind that? does michelin maybe stop their wrc support because of hankook coming to wrc?
No, JB (planetmarcus) tweeted them and they replied their crew was in Silverstone for the WEC round. Probably WEC is more important than WRC for Michelin.Quote:
Originally Posted by darkstar
ah ok...what is wec???
world endurance championship (Le mans cars)
am I stupid, or is there no proper rally review on the internet yet?
My best of collection:
http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Ralli...Portugal/best/
including Kubica's,Kondrahkin's and Attiyah exits.
http://harrinkuvat.1g.fi/kuvat/Ralli...JPG/_small.jpg
What comes to FRC 2012 for example Nikara's car(evo IX) was FRC FIN-R -class car and he put Lappi very tight with that. Fin-R car has like 330hp/650Nm and its lighter than FIA group N-car. Restrictor is bigger, turbo can be changed as well air suction etc.
Back to the right path:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mYbZiIOV3I
How did Kondrahkin manage to brake right front suspension went off on the other side? Did he than hit the bank on the opposite side of the road?
Yes he hit the bank in front of me. Lost a front bumber there. I'm not sure if he broke the suspension there, because he managed also second run and was stopped in next spectator zone after that. I carried the front bumber to there :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ciXqM1JfUQuote:
Originally Posted by noel157
great video,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFUZgkH4nik .
Very nice photos from Petr Lusk
http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...68%20kopie.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...43%20kopie.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...20%20kopie.jpghttp://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...40%20kopie.jpg
eWRC.cz - Fotogalerie Vodafone Rally de Portugal 2013 Petr Lusk
My pics from Vodafone Rally de Portugal on Andres Cachalvite Fotografía | Portfolio personal y blog de Andrés Cachalvite
http://i49.tinypic.com/2jcyo1z.jpg
Here's full Portugal's "Motoring Rally News" WRC-episode, broadcasted yesterday on Canale Italia and Dinamica Channel. In Italian, of course, but with interesting features to Italian drivers and Robert Kubica!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xi-VBSXS2Tc
Yes, great video Francis. Hard to know what speed to drive a DS3 R3 through the water at. It does not seem to like the wet stuff. Fisher was slow and stopped, Campedelli was faster and stopped. Cronin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
Yes, great video Francis. Hard to know what speed to drive a DS3 R3 through the water at. It does not seem to like the wet stuff. Fisher was slow and stopped, Campedelli was faster and stopped. Cronin was ???? and stopped. Unfortunate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Francis44
My review, finally a great rally!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX19VzZ6Or8
My pics from this brilliant event are online now
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8185/sizedr.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2...zedwrcp284.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8...zedwrcp389.jpg
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/8...zedwrcp852.jpg
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/2...zedwrcp952.jpg
http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8...zedwrcp389.jpg
We were probably at the same place during Ourique 2. Two people were there when I arrive at the place :)
Congrats to Ogier. I would cry if this situation wouldn't be so funny. For years Finns wait for Loeb to retire and when he finally do, what happen? :D Hilarious in macabre way.
However, there's a huge silverlining in this story. I call that Esapekka Lappi. What a brilliant drive. I'm really waiting for Tidemand to challenge him. There's a superduo to come :up:
That's right ;)
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Originally Posted by Sardalense