The head of BBC sport has apparently been sighted in Monza so either she's on holiday or there's still some negotiation going on.
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The head of BBC sport has apparently been sighted in Monza so either she's on holiday or there's still some negotiation going on.
Considering that most races are over 90 mins, 75mins seems fair for highlights for most races IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by henners88
Yes but not as the sole available coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
F1 fans at Monza chanting behind EJ and Jake after the race. Made me laugh!
Eddie is far more popular than one might expect, and the anti-Sky chanting was almost as funny as the "Sky News is sh##, watch the BBC" from the general election coverage. :D
Apparently the Singapore GP is in August.
How could they make such a mistake. They should be prevented from covering F1 and closed down like they did with News of the World.
Harsh!!
That was brilliant. A decent proof that we don't want Sky.Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
Another great 4 hours of F1 coverage from the BBC. I can't see Sky doing the same!
That is true, adds will surely be all over the place after the race finishes and no parc ferme, no podium or press conferences live.
Well it doesn't matter, I won't be watching the Sky coverage.
Gotta love Jake's professionalism. A stint on kids TV is handy!Quote:
Originally Posted by christophulus
A relief Ch4 didn't get the F1 rights. Those executives are utter pillocks thinking they can hire any young male TV presenter to front sports coverage.
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I think Jake is one of the best presenters I've ever seen. He knows exactly when enough is enough and when to take over and direct a discussion in a new direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
This stood out for me in Hungary mostly when Heidfeld's engine blew up and they were rolling the car back towards the pit lane. EJ said a silly comment along the lines of "We should find out the full facts before criticsing the marshalls". Then immediately realising that the Marshall should not be criticised Jake interrupted and said something along the lines of "Well we're certainly not criticising the Marshalls at all. They did a great job in tough circumstances" and quickly covered up EJ's blunder and moved off topic.
All presenters should do kids TV first. It's a brilliant grounding for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by wedge
The BBC isn't adversed to that too. I still remember Blue Peter presenter on the RAC rally coverage!Quote:
A relief Ch4 didn't get the F1 rights. Those executives are utter pillocks thinking they can hire any young male TV presenter to front sports coverage.
Yep, the minority sports went to the rookies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
I remember John Leslie doing the RAC highlights but he didn't look out of his depth and made a professional job of it even though you had an inkling he had no idea what he was talking about half the time.
But Ch4 have a history with slick sports presentation with their flagship sports - think cricket, NFL, Football Italia, WRC
The problem is with the presenter Otis something, is the knowledge to the sport, knowing the names of the people who are participating, to me or the events, is poor ground work to be honest from Otis, anyway channel 4 have done better with their presentation and productions side back in the past with the WRC back in 2002. and cricket, so forth IMHOQuote:
Originally Posted by wedge
The cover in our country is quit acceplable, we have one channel (10) who is free but it only cover the race. And then we could pay for another channel who sends it all, all practices and so on. The latter is my feed.
Begs the question which would be better - half the weekends in full on the Beeb and the other half barely covered, or every Sunday but *only* Sunday on the Beeb with Friday & Saturday practice/quali all Sky-only...
Clearly the latter. Qualy etc is nice but in the end it's only the race that matters.
Only for one year when it wasn't a full World Championship event, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Jake Humphrey offers a perfect blend of qualities for a modern-day F1 presenter. He manages to be informal yet sufficiently serious to carry it off, and, crucially, he knows his stuff. The BBC couldn't have chosen better. This generally goes for everyone the BBC has used for its sports coverage, whether on TV or radio. The same cannot be said of independent broadcasters.
Thanks to the EU we can watch the F1 using foreign satellite channels!
Just turn the sound down and listen to Crofty and Ant :)
Turns out my in-laws have just subscribed to Sky Sports. I know what I'll be doing for 10 weekends next year!
bad news i think for some of you
Court ruling spells trouble for British split TV deal
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The Telegraph reports that the court showed a green light to the use of foreign digital TV decoders within the United Kingdom, meaning viewers might be able to avoid paying for Sky’s subscription coverage.
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Ecclestone said he doubts British people will want to watch coverage with foreign-language commentary, and cast doubt on some viewers’ plans to use foreign decoders in conjunction with British ‘5 Live’ radio.
“That’s if 5 Live still have the rights,” he said.
“We could stop that. Ultimately I think people want something they can see and listen to live with the commentary in sync.”
Meh, if worst comes to worst people can just get a sopcast stream of the Sky Sports coverage. It may not be live quality but it sure beats paying Sky 500+ a year for most people. See if you have the power to stop that one, Mr. Ecclestone.
It's nothing to worry about. Most people don't have a clue how to pick up foreign stations - I'm one of them!
Amazing the efforts Mr. E seems to be going through lately to screw the hand that feeds him, i.e. the paying public.
It solidly proves his greed and selfishness regarding the situation. He doesn't care about the paying public - not that we, personally, needed to be told :rolleyes:
Yes I can't see it becoming a widespread issue. By the time you've got your foreign decoder box, maybe a subscription, and a largish dish set up by an aerial installer to point at the relevant satellite, you've probably paid close to what you would have paid for Sky with a subsidised box and installation. Perhaps worth it for a pub given Sky's commercial subscription rates, but probably not for most domestic situations.
Re Bernie's statement about the BBC radio rights, well the BBC seemed pretty confident that they still have them next year. Of course we always have to take anything Bernie says with a pinch of salt.
But you know what, I think I could live without commentary. I'd rather have live coverage (with live timing) and no commentary, than delayed coverage with commentary but no timing. I reckon I could pretend I was Martin Brundle and do my own commentary, and imagine the chat box on this forum as DC chipping in with helpful comments :)
I do wonder how many participants we'd get without live coverage. I was thinking less but perhaps more?
I have Sky Sports and intend to watch the F1 when it is on.
What I am worried about is the commentary team. I see the uncomfortable return of James Allen and Tony Jardine (who is already on Sky) and despite no adverts during races, the influx of ridiculous amounts of adverts before and after. See Golf coverage for the shocking abuse of adverts on Sky!
My current plan for the 10 Sky-only races is to watch the race from parade lap to chequered flag, no build up, no post-race analysis, and Sky+ the BBC highlights and watch them through for their superior coverage and analysis. That way I get the live race and the analysis fairly close together.
However, if James Allen is employed by Sky I will cancel my entire Sky subscription with immediate effect. I am contemplating doing it now because of Gary Neville!
The rumour is that the commentary teams may well be the same.
Good news if true, Mark :up:
Henners you just reminded me of a horrible James Allen moment.
Suzuka, 2007 (I think)
"What a wonderful piece of gamesmanship from Lewis Hamilton" - oxy moron at its best!
You mean forum participation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Few years ago live F1 rights were moved to pay channels, which I haven't bothered getting.
When watching through sopcast thingies the lag is about 5 minutes, that pushed me away from the forum live chats. When I watch the free version which airs 3 hours after the event, I stay away from the forums during that 3hours + race time, and after that it's already pointless to post to five page tirades about whoever Hamilton hit in that race. :D
You might indeed end up with less participation.
Biased, yes, but oxymoron - no. Gamesmanship for a person they are pushing the limits of tolerance, to the other it is regarded as cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bezza
Apart from the recent athletics debacle, you could say the same for Ch4. Danny Kelly has been surprisingly very good replacing Gary Imlach for the NFL coverage.Quote:
Originally Posted by BDunnell
I was thinking in terms of participation in the live chats which go on during the races. It may be that some without live coverage will still want to follow the race.. But in terms of forum participation, you may well be right, I think there will be at least some here who will lose interest in following Formula 1 closely if they can't watch every race live.Quote:
Originally Posted by janneppi
The entire production teams should be the same. Just give them two sets of uniforms and tell them to remember to wear the correct one at the correct race!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark
Or is that far too sensible?
This is my virtual letter to the BBC, thanking them and Bernie Ecclestone for being too greedy and doing illegal stuff: (to sad piano playing in the background)
Dear BBC
You are meant to be the national broadcaster, someone who people can turn to in times of sadness and despair, to lift out spirits.
You have been accused of dumbing down in the past, but I could forgive you, until July of 2011.
That will go down in history as the month that the BBC (British Betrayal Corporation) signed a deal with Sky.
Why, or why, BBC, did you do it?
You say it is in the fans interest. Take the person who hasn't got Sky and has watched F1 since it started, they can't follow a whole season, nor can his son, his grandson, and so on.
Oh, and what will we have to 'look forward to' in the place of live BBC races, endless repeats of Keeping Up Appearances and Eastenders?
Well done, BBC, you may have some of the season, but in some ways, whats the point - you have robbed us of the sport that we love.
I also remember you, our beloved BBC, saying you'd never cut a contract short - well, you have done!
Bernie - shame on you!
So, BBC and Bernie - F1 will never be the same again, thanks for nothing!
Ummm...the year is 2011. Why complain about the BBC/Sky, etc. You can watch a live stream of all F1 races from the Internet in HD, regardless of the provider.
Best of all, it's FREE! A GOOGLE search can do wonders!
Martin Brundle expected to join Sky TV's new Formula One commentary team
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/mot...tary-team.html