[WRC] News & rumours (part II)

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30th December 2008, 17:59
A.F.F.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jparker

Of course it's true. When you think of it, without Loeb the only guy Hirvonen is competing against is Sordo. The rest were clowns covering for him, and 2 teams with crap cars. Becoming champ in this situation is not such a big deal.

So **** Loeb and his title, right ??
30th December 2008, 18:00
jbmarcus21

During this trouble time between driver and team ... Official, rumour, yes, no.......

Here the link for the OFFICIAL info about WRC SEASON 2009 for the entrylist'09 !!

http://planetemarcus.free.fr/team09.htm
30th December 2008, 18:30
Barreis

No more Marcus/Timo.. Maybe Bettega memorial again..
30th December 2008, 18:32
alleskids

Accept that Van Merksteijn Motorsport will not be a MT2, but "only" privateers doing 8 WRc rounds in a Focus WRC07.
30th December 2008, 19:00
Helstar

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel

Some people did suggest after that rally australia performance by Colin that the car may not have been quite legal and that Skoda fluffed the clutch change on purpose. Just rumours of course but always good to consider all possibilities.

Bu******s. The performance was very good but nothing 'super-mega' relevant ... he was battling with Rovampera (Mitsu) for the second place, minutes behind Duval ^^ if the top drivers wouldn't be crashed/retired, he'd be battling for a 5th place. Skoda mechanics were nearly crying after the failed clutch change.
30th December 2008, 19:46
jbmarcus21

Quote:

Originally Posted by alleskids

Accept that Van Merksteijn Motorsport will not be a MT2, but "only" privateers doing 8 WRc rounds in a Focus WRC07.

Yes true... i made "-" and not M2 .. ;) ... I will add "private" ;)

For Marcus ... ??? No more news... :(
30th December 2008, 20:09
4Regioni

For JBMarcus21:
Peter Van Merkensteij Senior 8 Wrc events
Peter Van Merkensteijn Junior 8 Wrc events
Mads Ostberg 8 Wrc events
Federico Villagra 8 Wrc events
30th December 2008, 20:11
Daniel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helstar

Bu******s. The performance was very good but nothing 'super-mega' relevant ... he was battling with Rovampera (Mitsu) for the second place, minutes behind Duval ^^ if the top drivers wouldn't be crashed/retired, he'd be battling for a 5th place. Skoda mechanics were nearly crying after the failed clutch change.

Hey I didn't say I believed it. Just that this was what some said.
30th December 2008, 20:18
Mirek

Daniel: If they had to retire because of something illegal, I think they would have retired in less amateur looking way. After this retirement they looked like a party of bunglers. Everything is possible but I think that they just failed...
30th December 2008, 20:18
Tomi

[quote="Helstar"]

This is what the die hard skoda fans seem to forget, but when a guy who never has won anything starts to talk about winning cars, and how with small changes make the Fabia into a winner they buy it like nothing.
30th December 2008, 20:45
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

This is what the die hard skoda fans seem to forget, but when a guy who never has won anything starts to talk about winning cars, and how with small changes make the Fabia into a winner they buy it like nothing.

I don't think anyone here believed what Henning said about Fabia being a potential winner, in fact I don't even believe that is quite what he meant.

Colin was 43.7s behind Duval when he retired, last time I checked less than 1 minute does not qualify as a plural.
30th December 2008, 20:51
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

Colin was 43.7s behind Duval when he retired, last time I checked less than 1 minute does not qualify as a plural.

The relevant thing you maybe understand is if you look at the list of retirments, that might maybe put the fabia preformance in a different light.
30th December 2008, 21:08
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

The relevant thing you maybe understand is if you look at the list of retirments, that might maybe put the fabia preformance in a different light.

Colin's times throughout the whole rally were quite competitive, however of course the position he was running in was mainy because of the number of retirements.

But the man is sadly no longer with us, and the car is 4 years old next year, ancient history compared to a Focus or C4.

And I look forward to 2009 when I expect Mikko Markkula will be travelling rather faster, relatively speaking, than last time he was in a Skoda ;)
30th December 2008, 21:16
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

And I look forward to 2009 when I expect Mikko Markkula will be travelling rather faster, relatively speaking, than last time he was in a Skoda ;)

It will be interesting to see if Skoda this time has an professional attitude, or is there again a bunch of Sveijk's running around the car without any aim to reach.
30th December 2008, 21:27
jbmarcus21

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Regioni

For JBMarcus21:
Peter Senior Van Merkensteij 8 Wrc events
Peter Van Merkensteijn Junior 8 Wrc events
Mads Ostberg 8 Wrc events
Federico Villagra 8 Wrc events

ok thanks .. i don't knew for Peter Senior Van Merkensteij program ;) ???
30th December 2008, 21:50
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

It will be interesting to see if Skoda this time has an professional attitude, or is there again a bunch of Sveijk's running around the car without any aim to reach.

I am confident the programme will be much more succesful this time.

The car looks good and they have tested it well, there are new management and engineers in place and the driver lineup is good this time too.
30th December 2008, 21:56
alleskids

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmarcus21

ok thanks .. i don't knew for Peter Senior Van Merkensteij program ;) ???

senior will do the same program as junior :)
30th December 2008, 22:01
A.F.F.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

I am confident the programme will be much more succesful this time.

The car looks good and they have tested it well, there are new management and engineers in place and the driver lineup is good this time too.

As what I was going to tell. However, I don't know who those testdrivers have been.
30th December 2008, 22:14
Halvis

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

I don't think anyone here believed what Henning said about Fabia being a potential winner, in fact I don't even believe that is quite what he meant.

Colin was 43.7s behind Duval when he retired, last time I checked less than 1 minute does not qualify as a plural.

"Skodaen gikk som ei kule. Ja, jeg synes bilen var bedre å ratte enn Forden min. Det er ikke så mye som skal gjøres før dette blir en skikkelig vinnerbil, sier Solberg."

This is what Henning presumably said, if it's correct that he said exactly this, it means that (translated) "The Skoda went like a bullet. I think it was better to drive than the Ford. It doesn't take much work to transform it into a real winning car" - but he doesn't put it into perspective, I think he means in a national norwegian level.
30th December 2008, 22:29
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

As what I was going to tell. However, I don't know who those testdrivers have been.

Kopecky, Baumschlager, Lindholm, Sainz, Panizzi and Hanninen.
30th December 2008, 22:35
Mirek

It's funny that the thread "news and rumours" is full of team which retired 3 years a go with no results :)
30th December 2008, 22:38
A.F.F.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

Kopecky, Baumschlager, Lindholm, Sainz, Panizzi and Hanninen.

I know Baumschlager but I've never heard of those other guys :confused: Hopefully they have ven some idea of a rallycar.
30th December 2008, 22:59
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by RS

Kopecky, Baumschlager, Lindholm, Sainz, Panizzi and Hanninen.

Who are the ones that has had the main responibility in the developing.
30th December 2008, 23:06
Mirek

Kopecký definitely, he made tousands of kilometers (mostly on tarmac). Baumschlager also made many tests. Hänninen and Lindholm made mostly gravel tests (Hänninen also some tarmac and snow in last weeks). Panizzi made only two tarmac tests and Sainz only one, I think. Probably there were some others behind the wheels as well, but that's just my opinion.
30th December 2008, 23:57
StevieWonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

As what I was going to tell. However, I don't know who those testdrivers have been.

one of them was the Austrian raimund baumschlager - known as head of red bull rallye team
sainz was also testing the skoda one day in Austria !
and i think kopecky was also official test driver.
30th December 2008, 23:58
StevieWonder

Quote:

Originally Posted by StevieWonder

one of them was the Austrian raimund baumschlager - known as head of red bull rallye team
sainz was also testing the skoda one day in Austria !
and i think kopecky was also official test driver.

o sorry
mirek has already answered !
31st December 2008, 05:17
RS

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

I know Baumschlager but I've never heard of those other guys :confused: Hopefully they have ven some idea of a rallycar.

:D
31st December 2008, 08:28
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze

]Kopecký definitely, he made tousands of kilometers (mostly on tarmac). Baumschlager also made many tests. Hänninen and Lindholm made mostly gravel tests (Hänninen also some tarmac and snow in last weeks). Panizzi made only two tarmac tests and Sainz only one, I think. Probably there were some others behind the wheels as well, but that's just my opinion.

So the testdrivers seems to be Kopecký and Baumslhlager, does anyone know how many test days Hänninen has so far, 2-3 ??
31st December 2008, 08:46
A.F.F.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomi

So the testdrivers seems to be Kopecký and Baumslhlager, does anyone know how many test days Hänninen has so far, 2-3 ??

In his own website Juho tells he has been testing new Skoda "pitkin syksyä", whatever that means in testdays?? I got an impression it's more than just couple of days.

http://www.juhohanninen.com/main.sit...guage_code=fin
31st December 2008, 08:48
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

In his own website Juho tells he has been testing new Skoda "pitkin syksyä", whatever that means in testdays?? I got an impression it's more than just couple of days.

http://www.juhohanninen.com/main.sit...guage_code=fin

Ahaa ok
31st December 2008, 11:52
Barreis

I'm happy about this Finn driver!
31st December 2008, 13:07
Mirek

Tomi: Juho had much more testing days than two or three, my guess is about 15-20 ;)
31st December 2008, 13:11
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Mirek Fric [Cze

]Tomi: Juho had much more testing days than two or three, my guess is about 15-20 ;)

Thats good
31st December 2008, 13:37
A.F.F.

You have to forgive Tomi for being such a critical about this issue. As a Skoda driver himself he only wants to be sure team will be supporting is truly best of the best of the best :D
31st December 2008, 14:25
Tomi

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.F.F.

You have to forgive Tomi for being such a critical about this issue. As a Skoda driver himself he only wants to be sure team will be supporting is truly best of the best of the best :D

I support all new teams that will start in WRC, but I just wanted to know about Hänninen, if calling guys who drive 1-2 days testdrivers, i find it strange.
2nd January 2009, 10:52
Krigen

Mikkelsen

Andreas Mikkelsen will drive the Subaru Cup this year, starting next weekend in Sigdalsrally :)
2nd January 2009, 10:57
Salist

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krigen

Andreas Mikkelsen will drive the Subaru Cup this year, starting next weekend in Sigdalsrally :)

-1 WRC :-(
3rd January 2009, 13:01
swordsman

List of drivers for WRC 2009: http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/who...t-in-wrc-2009/

Complete??
3rd January 2009, 13:16
jbmarcus21

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsman

List of drivers for WRC 2009: http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/who...t-in-wrc-2009/

Complete??

yes i think.. but Ostberg doubt because i think just 8 rallies not 12 ;)

here : http://planetemarcus.free.fr/team09.htm ;)
3rd January 2009, 13:52
Tom206wrc

Quote:

Originally Posted by swordsman

List of drivers for WRC 2009: http://www.maxattack.net/2009/01/who...t-in-wrc-2009/

Complete??

Mmmmmh...change of codriver for our friend Conrad Rautenbach ??? Wonder how it'll affect his drive(in positive or negative) :mark:

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