another school shooting in U.S. of A. :(

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Right - coming from a guy who's government fried 9 million people - you are just the guy I want to listen to.

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I've run it through Google Translate but I'm still none the wiser. What's the point you're trying to make?

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Originally Posted by Roamy

Right - coming from a guy who's government fried 9 million people - you are just the guy I want to listen to.

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Er, pardon? There are quite a lot of people here waiting for your explanation with great anticipation.

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

She was hoarding stuff (including guns) for the end of the world. Seriously, there is a loose wire there somewhere, maybe she watched T2 once too often?

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Where in the world did you get that?

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Er, pardon? There are quite a lot of people here waiting for your explanation with great anticipation.

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Something tells me we ought not hold our collective breath........

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

OK. But were any of those deaths pre-meditated?

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It makes a difference? Dead is just dead.

President talking last night near Sandy Hook, so in case any of our European friend's missed it, here it is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBCYgaS83vs

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Originally Posted by Starter

That's an interesting point. In this and similar threads, there is a huge amount of outrage and finger pointing about gun violence in the US. I don't recall any threads about the mass bombings in Iraq, Afghanistan, Spain, Israel, Nigeria, Pakistan and other places.

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We can start a thread about the sheer uselessness of the US and Allied efforts in bringing peace and stability to two of those countries if you like — one in which some of your countrymen (perhaps even yourself) would no doubt start bleating about the lack of gratitude being shown towards the US for its fight against terrorism.

I also find it sad that you would suggest that killings in the US are somehow less surprising, and thus no more worthy of comment, than acts of violence in the likes of Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Originally Posted by Starter

The mass gun deaths here represent a small fraction of total deaths. More people, children included, die in any given week on the US highways than died at that school. Some as a result of true accidents, but many because of the criminal behavior of others. Any outrage? ...... (silence) Guess not. Perhaps we should all try and get a sense of perspective about what the world is really like instead of what we would like it to be.

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A meaningless, empty paragraph and a meaningless, empty argument. How, in moral terms, do you equate everyday accidents with someone entering a school and shooting children dead?

Your notion of what the world is 'really like' strikes me as a paranoid, insecure one in which these supposed 'realities' lead to security measures of absurdly inflated proportions.

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Originally Posted by Starter

It makes a difference? Dead is just dead.

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Not in the eyes of the law it isn't, hence differing sentences for murder and manslaughter, to cite one example.

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Originally Posted by Starter

It makes a difference? Dead is just dead.

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Yes, it does make a difference. To blithely say that we shouldn't read too much into these killings, because more kids die on the roads is to miss the point by a light year.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

Er, pardon? There are quite a lot of people here waiting for your explanation with great anticipation.

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I don't wish to put words in his mouth, but I believe it was in reply to this quote from henners88 in post #262: ".....that paranoid or there genuinely is a need for such protection then your country.....".