Right about now I'm thinking they wish they hadQuote:
Originally Posted by jwhite9185
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Right about now I'm thinking they wish they hadQuote:
Originally Posted by jwhite9185
at least the Delta wing had a clear purpose and design direction.... It may not have been the final solution as it was presented, but it was a bold step forward as opposed to what appears to be a blind stumble (although I am sure this car will work fine in the end, it is just the evolution of a formula that reached its zenith almost 20 years ago.........
What the series needs is this:
http://rawautos.com/wp-content/uploa...1298576388.jpg
What we continue to be given is this:
http://besttopdesign.com/wp-content/...tek-Yellow.jpg
Marshall Pruitt's article on the new car is up at speed - very interesting read.... I'll re-read later for more detail - but it sounds like Dallara more or less messed up the basic concept and more than a few people suspected it going in.... Also sounds like Dallara might have been overly optimistic on the requests it made of vendor supplied parts.....
My gut feeling is that they are going to make it work for the year with band-aids, the numbers will be ok but nobody is ever going to be comfortable with the car, and this car will be short lived - maybe one or two seasons at most - while he does not out and out say it - it just sounds like this car has some fundamental problems that might not be practically fixable in the most ideal sense of the word....
So, it sounds like the ICONIC panel really was just smoke and mirrors after all.... nobody really was watching the development of the car all that well....
The core of the sport is just too - something - they don't seem to listen to much of anyone when it gets down to it and have not for years - even generations.....
Here is an article by Pruett detailing the problems with the new car. The problems are significant and they seem to be trying to solve them without spending more money. F1 drivers say they can usually tell right out of the box if a new car has potential or is a dog. I think I hear the DW12 barking.
http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/artic...lopment-issues
From the PS3 game Gran Turismo 5. Basically Adrian Newey was given a blank canvas and told to come up with his dream car. This is the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loneranger
Red Bull X2010 Prototype Full Reveal - News - gran-turismo.com
it is interesting that the rear weight bias it a real problem - probably means the Delta wing would have been a nightmare..... sounds like it has a bit of a pendulum effect in the turns at Indy....
Bruce Ashmore's comments on the bidding process in Gordon Kirby's recent article. Makes for some interesting reading.Quote:
Originally Posted by champcarray
http://www.gordonkirby.com/categorie..._is_no310.html
"We lost the bid because the winner put in a business plan, not a plan for the car. It was a building on Main Street in Speedway and a business plan for the build and supply of all the cars but nothing for the design of the car. The rest of us believed we were putting in a plan for the design of a car and that the winner would be the best design."
The basic problem seems to be does anyone know how the tender process worked for the new car? The names I hear bandied about - Dallara, Lola etc never excited me. How about asking the likes of Newey, or McLaren Automotive to sumbit a concept? Did it even happen or was the entire process skewed towards Dallara doing?
And McLaren for example does not have such capability ;) But .. come on, in the whole USA they were unable to find at least one manufacturer to develop and produce an open wheel racing chassis ... for the north American equivalent of Formula 1 ??? How that sounds to you?Quote:
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