Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

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Originally Posted by uranium

At least road must blocked by police before running the stage and opened only after rally is finished. Is it too hard?
Another option is block completely road for private cars, but use several buses to move spectators to stage seeing points. Is it impossible?
A lot of solutions, only will is needed.

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You expect too much :) it is much easier just to cancel stages. Funs? Who cares about them? Organisers don't care they made hundreds or even thousands km to get there and waiting in the heavy rain.

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

..... Looks like rally funs are the least important factor of rallies these days, no TV coverage, no guides, shamble with split times, comparing to F1 or even ERC now, WRC seem to be ellite "sport" for chosen ones.

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this is my conspiracy! :vader:
hours of days of incars, hours of helicopter recordings of days, more and much much more... what we get is 25 minutes tv coverage with very poor incars and tiny bit of others. more interviews (which is not needed to be seen, it can be heard while a good helicam is being viewed and so on-you hear them on radio, right?)
and i think, there is a group of elites to recieve all those "archive" material, it is not for public! in time some spectators become youtube broadcasterers of sport as a result. which is good for the elites, so they don't need to worry about their plot.

Nice photo of the conditions on Turini

http://www.ewrc.cz/images/2013/photo...i_img_9005.jpg

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Agree. I also think that the best would be to run this section only once. Maybe they could add another stage like Col de Braus to add some kilometers.

The three passes were definitely too much.

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That's good idea too.

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Originally Posted by spiderem

So now what? Conspiracy that Citroen have influenced the coc to cancel the stage as they had no tyres left???
Come on....

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:p No, that was the deal done to make sure Citroen entered Loeb for Monte. Why else put those stages in the night? Both Citroen and the organizers knew those stages would be cancelled. so Citroen never had too save tires for them.

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Originally Posted by rallyfun

Access to Col de Turini for SS16 was a joke, Gendarmerie stoped all the cars some 8 km before the stage and you had an option to walk 8 km or turn back even there was lots of space as hundreds of cars left Col the Turini

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It was possible to reach Moulinet by Col de Braus (20km) . I choose to wait for them on the road section cause i was short in time but it was possible.

Fantastic rally anyway.

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Originally Posted by uranium

At least road must blocked by police before running the stage and opened only after rally is finished. Is it too hard?
Another option is block completely road for private cars, but use several buses to move spectators to stage seeing points. Is it impossible?
A lot of solutions, only will is needed.

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I’ve once going to a stage in NORF with a bus but I don’t think I want to sit in a bus on those roads and in those conditions. :s hock:

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Originally Posted by catty

Probably because in 1986 they didnt care about emergency services access or spectator safety or competitor safety......

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Well, there are many other examples I could have cited. The 1985 RAC, for example: 65 stages, of which three were cancelled on, if I remember correctly, exactly those grounds. Still a significantly better ratio.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

With all these problems with traffic I think it is best Turini to be run only once in the evening, or perhaps another one in the morning earlier.

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Anything to reduce the number of stage repetitions and encourage the use of more different ones is fine by me.

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Originally Posted by Mirek

In 1980' there were far less cars. I guess that for moving the same number of people half of the cars were used.

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Yes, a very reasonable point.