What "new sponsor"?Quote:
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What "new sponsor"?Quote:
Originally Posted by darkos
Other than than the rallycross Veloster what was Hyundai sponsoring in the US? Sadly since we don't have the i20 I'm guessing there's going to be nothing to support in the US like Ford can do with the Fiesta R2, albeit with the 5 door shell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gherid_lacksGPS
Hyundai also did Drifting and the pikes peak hill climb cars. Rhys hinted right after pikes peak that he wouldn't be in a Hyundai next year. And I agree with you no i20 so we won't get anything. Same story with the polo, so if VW does enter our rallycross series like someone else mentioned, I assume it will be with a golf.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gregor-y
Wow this is interesting. I take it that Monster will sponsor the Ford WRT from 2013 then?Quote:
Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1
If VW does GRC that would be amazing. Isn't it expanding into Europe? Does GRC have a relationship with its European counterpart?Quote:
Originally Posted by TyPat107
Pretty sure the two couldn't more different really. GRC is like moto supercross for cars... supposed to be a bit of show, big jumps, arena type layouts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
European Rallycross is more like normal motocross, out in the real world. The only thing that is similar are the cars, I believe. Didn't Tanner Foust do some European events?
The FIA is pushing for European Rallycross to become a World Championship series in the next few years. The GRC will not be recognised as part of the new series, but organisers from both categories are believed to be working together on their calendars so that there are no clashes, allowing competitors to take part in both championships without any clashes.
If I (and google translate) got this right, Abu Dhabi deal is for 3+2 years and Matton thinks they can run both WRC and WTCC.
Also that they have had talks with Sordo and Solberg for the second seat.
AutoMoto365.com Solberg, Sordo, Abou Dhabi : Yves Matton évoque l
Sordo will never play the second fiddle again at Citroen. If he joins them it will be on his conditions, and it will not be as 2nd driver, for sure.
Petter also. He stays at Ford if JML goes to VW.
What conditions ? he's unemployed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyper
Hirvonen will be #1 in the team and is a tad quicker than Sordo on gravel. Hence he will be #2 at best.
And with Loeb joining in for a limited selection of rallies (tarmac only ?) he will probably settle for 3rd in order to not take points away from Hirvonen.
Imagine the following situation in which Loeb enters a rally, beats Hirvonen and helps him at the same time:
Situation 1, without Loeb:
1. Ogier wins, gets 25 points
2. Hirvonen second, 18 points, which is seven less than Ogier.
Situation 2, same rally, but with Loeb's entry:
1. Loeb wins, gets 25 points
2. Ogier second, gets 18 points,
3. Hirvonen third, gets 15 points, only three less than Ogier.
The only thing missing from this scenario is Hirvonen helping himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by kober
Hirvonen will help himself by being on the podium in all the other rallies too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hartusvuori
You really think so? I don't buy that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Karukera
Tanner was co-ERC champion last year as I recall. He is actually the real deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazza555)
He finished second in the championship, the winner was Isachsen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Tanner is the real deal. I honestly wish he would have had the opportunity to try the wrc over Block. I think the results would be much better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
They are two different entities, but as stated, there's work being done to accommodate both schedules for drivers. I know tanner has recently expressed agitation towards the recent ERC developments. Not sure if that had anything to do with him not attending the latest ERC round. Looks like things are getting ironed out, though. I think the VW venture into GRC has more to do with GRC actually expanding globally next year and not so much about a US presence. Spain, Brazil, Germany if I'm not mistaken? Be sick to see a preped polo on US soil, though; even a golf. More will be known at SEMA at the end of October; final GRC round. Sucks for Millen, hope he has a ride next year - dodge?Quote:
Originally Posted by Plan9
Back to wrc banter.
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Originally Posted by kober
Pretty wild scenarios there. Now that the "road is clear" for Mikko to take over, it is time to make mistakes and over-drive the car, thanks to the extra pressure of the assumed #1 status.
Free of charge :)Quote:
Originally Posted by A.F.F.
Just to clarify, i was talking about the possibility of Sordo going to Citroën and purposedly settling behind Hirvonen when Loeb enters a rally.
Loeb will want to win events he starts or in the extreme, support Hirvonen if really necessary...
My point is to underline how precious a semi second fiddle Sordo can be.
The equation will be anyway tricky with Latvala, Solberg and Ogier on the field. That's what makes 2013 exciting.
I already begin to feel sorry for Citroen reading these posts.
The cynical principles of team orders. They all play the game.
He was #1 at Ford last year. Over-driving the car, isn't the first that springs to mind :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Miika
when Latvala goes to VW and there are Rumours about P.Solberg should be number 2. in Citroen i wanna ask is it sure that Ford will drive next year?
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by sete
It has been alleged that there are performance related clauses in the contract between Ford and M-Sport, and with only 2 wins (Ostberg doesn't count), they perhaps haven't hit the required level. Yet.
May be the time will come for overdriving :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gard
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Originally Posted by rallyfiend
There is no performance clauses in the Ford M-Sport contract .They will 100% be competiting in 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by sete
I understand that Latvala is also going to be staying at Ford for 2013 with a possible announcment next week after Rally France.Think the only stumbling block was he was after a bigger salary from Ford as he had a big offer from VW.Malcolm was putting all his weight behind Latvala's wage demand.
And dont expect Petter to be offered a new contract at Ford works team.
The championship needs JML in Ford. I hope he really stays.
+1. The two fastest drivers in VW. That might make them dominant force after awhile.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
That would surprise me - he's probably going to finish ahead of JML in the overall standings, or within a few points at worst. Sordo is the only driver who may be a better number 2, but with no inside knowledge at all, I'd fancy Solberg to stay with Ford 1 more year before Ostberg moves up (assuming Ford are still here in 2 years)Quote:
Originally Posted by fastboy
?? The problem is, who to replace Petter? I reckon Petter has been a good team player for Ford this year. I wont say perfect because he has had some crashes this year. I wouldnt rate Ostberg above Petter yet, and he is the only driver in a fiesta thats anywhere near to taking Petters place. Of course there is Sordo, but he is still an outsider to Ford. But Rally is a strange animal, and funny things happen...Quote:
Originally Posted by fastboy
Driver must be good on tarmac also and Ostberg isn't that good.
Why, pray tell? Source?Quote:
Originally Posted by fastboy
I guess it must mean Latvala has been as worse team player.Quote:
Originally Posted by tfp
On wrc.com it says that one of the drivers has said he cant wait for loeb to go... any ideas who this is?
I'd say Petter :D
I can only guess - Paolo Nobre :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by RJM
Agreed! Though I'd guess he probably said it in a slightly nicer tone than is being reported if it was Petter as they're good friends. Perhaps Sordo is a more likely option?Quote:
Originally Posted by clem126
Does anyone know why Ramona Karlsson have decided to sell her car as well as the spare bodywork and the parts for it?
Rallybilen och reservkarossen till salu « Ramona Rallying
Esapekka Lappi & Janne Ferm will also do rallies in Spain at the end of October and November.
Which rallies could these be?
News so far only in Finnish Esapekka Lappi : Tervetuloa Esapekka Lapin kotisivuille
Google Translate
Nice google translation “Games run from October to the end of November.” A long rally. :D