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No Saudi Arabia next year (thankfully) USA still trying although more likely 2025 will be their year and Poland replacing Mexico for some reason. https://www.autosport.com/wrc/news/w...-out/10505743/
Still 13 events, not surprised considering how expensive the cars are.
Hopefully no Poland! There is already next year Latvia which is almost the same and of course Finland. There should be tarmac event like Ypres, Ireland or Spain.
Hell yes for Poland.
We need more faster events
Money from who too who?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
From organizer(s) of rally(s) to promotor's pocket?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sulland
5 mln € for a WRC eventQuote:
Originally Posted by jcevc
And what do they do with the money? Not a lot it would seem....
The teams get some - certainly for the non-European eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
I readed somewhere that calendar proposed is:
Monte-Carlo 24/28 January
Sweden 15/18 February
Safari March
Croatia April
Portugal May
Sardignia June
Poland June
Latvia July
Finland July
Acropolis September
Chile October
Central Europe October
Japan November
So Estonia is out for Latvia and Poland comes in for some reason.... Why not just have Latvia take the June date and give Estonia a reprive???
Rally Estonia have admitted they don’t have the funding for 2024.
Would rather see another tarmac event instead like Catalunya or Corsica at the time of the central european rally, have the central european rally 3 weeks after Finland and then push Greece to June.Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Definetely there should be Mexico or Argentina. No Poland needed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I thought Argentina was on it’s way to replace Chile.Quote:
Originally Posted by rp
As far as I know Argentina can only run in the usual location in March/April because other months are too dry and there's a risk of wildfires. There's a different region also bidding in case the April slot (today occupied by Croatia) doesn't free up, but in either case there's not much information about the verdict, just speculation.
I wonder if Safari is at the end of the month or at the beginning. Rally sweden takes place 15-18 february and usually theres at least a monthly brake after that. Which puts rally Kenya right at the start of a monsoon season.
If they’re not adding anything new and simply replacing Mexico with Poland, I’d wish they’d mix up the calendar, maybe bring back Finland to October, it was a unique event to watch and I’d love if the organisers, once every few years would move it to the autumn slot.
As far as I know the economy in Argentina is not doing great at the moment, while Chile is looking better, could buget also be an issue?
Maybe this is wrong info but I was under the impression Chile fits well in the calendar because they can ship those parts directly to Japan.
Perhaps it will run on the Easter weekend?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tauri_J
With a 5-day Circuit of Ireland at the same time please!Quote:
Originally Posted by HKSjbg
Speaking of the devil: https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-t...before-greece/
I criticise the promoters and the FIA a lot but if they want to keep Rally1 this is the right move, it actually gives me some hope until the next rules cycle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Quote:
“Our plan is to stay with 13, and the reason to stay with 13 is that we believe it’s in the best interest of the championship that we, together with the manufacturers, are taking the best steps to increase the number of cars in the P1 (Priority 1 – manufacturer drivers) field,” Larkin told DirtFish.
“And that means having the best possible calendar that allows them to invest, allows us to invest as well because we are working on plans where we will also be involved in additional cars for the championship and that means having a relatively stable calendar. That’s where we are.
I'm the opposite; when you have so few top class entries, cutting the number of rounds, and costs is normally the way to go. They could go to 10 rounds and make the ERC more attractive....
The WEC is in far better shape, but still keep the number of rounds sensible.
How is that opposite?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyRAC
EDIT: the context was that they were going to go to 14 next year, so keeping 13 instead of pushing for more is positive in my opinion.
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/sunin...ance-in-chile/
Suninen in Rally1 in Chile
Motorsport Ireland aim to make a return to Ireland for the WRC a reality by 2025:
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/irela...-intensifying/
Donegal or Killarney are apparently the two most likely locations so far. I personally like the sound of Killarney, no better stages in ROI than Rally of the Lakes in my opinion
Subaru is coming back?
https://www.motorsport.com/wrc/news/...alks/10517394/
@SebOgier gives interview to Greek media: No plans for full season in the future / WRC must reduce costs to attract manufacturers / events should be one day shorter / critisizes 2024 calendar
https://www-gazzetta-gr.translate.go..._x_tr_pto=wapp
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-e...-be-discussed/
They have a meeting concerning the issue on the 22nd of September.
Larkin does so much taking but not actions. From the article it sounds like I’m not the only one thinking this with teams drives also not being satisfied
In other news. Ogier confirmed in Sunday morning dirtfish interview he will be in Central European rally
https://dirtfish.com/rally/wrc/wrc-p...future-option/
Seems like we’re gonna continue as is, in 2027 and beyond.
So nothing will change......WRC Promoter don't really know what they are doing.
It is all after discussion between FIA, promoter and manufacturers. And nobody of them see future in rallysport in full EV...
There is no room in rallying for full EV. The RX fire proved it beyond doubt. And that was in a closed, monitored environment. Just think what can happen in an off like Linnamae's...
The main problem is battery weight. Rallying can go electric but it would still need a combustion engine working as a generator.Quote:
Originally Posted by macebig
EV's would just lead to much reduced spectator interest, which will lead to reduced sponsor interest, which will lead to reduced manufacturer interest.
Making rallying look boring by taking away the sound will do nothing but kill the sport.
The long days without service isnt right and its reducing the chances of crews continuing when there are already a low number of Rally 1 cars.
The Teams and mechanics also need to be made part of the story. Like in F1 where the bèst pit stops, running repairs and strategy are an important factor in the races.
The thing is that WRC is in a vicious circle. It kind of needs to go electric (and the manufacturers want that) but in the same time it can't.Quote:
Originally Posted by denkimi
Anyway the WRC shall finally get rid of manufacturer homologations and allow privately developed cars. That could keep the sinking ship afloat for quite some time.
True is that manufacturers (at least that one currently competing in WRC) doesnt wants to go fully electric...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Don't get me wrong. They would go for electric propulsion if it was technically feasible but it's not, hence why they don't want because there is no other way. That's the vicious circle :)Quote:
Originally Posted by PLuto