JK is 58 and not getting any younger, it had to happen at some stage and this timing gives a settling in period with Seb before the 2018 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
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JK is 58 and not getting any younger, it had to happen at some stage and this timing gives a settling in period with Seb before the 2018 season.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
I'm not sure, but I can guess it's mostly because of his age. John Kennard is 58 years old now, being a codriver on top level is very demanding.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
2016 WRC Polo to run in the Austrian Rally Championship ?
Rallye-Mag (translate)
'Raimund Baumschlager will start with his Skoda Fabia R5 as usual, but it will not be. The preparations for a spectacular vehicle change have long been taking place behind the scenes. Baumschlager wants to compete with a VW Polo WRC at selected ÖRM-runs and be the first private driver to move to the world champion car.'
Not a "splitting up". John is simply standing down from co-driving duties but staying with the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by spiderem
Both have made no secret that John would step aside when the time was right and, as much as we all like to see JK in the car, it's been expected for some time.
With Hayden always having been focussed on 2018 for a tilt at the title, they've obviously decided now is time to make the change to bring the new guy up to speed.
Yes : http://www.lemagsportauto.com/raimun...o-r-wrc/22077/Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
its not about rally,but suppose interested some of us
Gabriele Tarquini joins Hyundai Motorsport as TCR project test driver
https://motorsport.hyundai.com/gabri...t-test-driver/
Gabriele is a driver's driver, isn't he? He's been at it since the 80s and doesn't look to have any interest in slowing down. Contrast with someone like Nico Rosberg, who wins the title once and promptly retires.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
It's sort of like Jools Holland vs Don McLean.
about Toyota brake and engine problems at Mexico
http://www.autosport.com/news/report...-mexico-issues
yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
Quote:
"The other thing is the brakes - we don't have enough.
"The pads were running too hot, there's not enough cooling on the car.
"If you look at the other [cars], you can see more brake cooling [vents]. This is [a lack of] experience from us."
Incredible, we are not part of the organization of a WRC team and we know that where more brakes are consumed is in Mexico
How could Toyota and the Brake Provider have not figured it out?
because they are run by a bunch of amateur nobodies.... the pain has just begun.Quote:
Originally Posted by rayh_mx
Take your painkillers!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
Pain-killers for him would become suicide pills.Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
Pacenotes Rally Magazine
Have to be careful with taking medication while competing folks...
Yves Matton Suspended
Citroen Racing’s competition director, team principal for Citroen’s WRC activities and proprietor of the MY Rally Team Yves Matton has been suspended from active competition by Belgian authorities after failing a drugs test conducted at the 2016 Condroz Rally, on which he finished fifth.
A Belgian national, he had entered this international event as an amateur driver at the wheel of an old Citroen C4 WRC. The judgment ordered that “all licences” shall be suspended for a two year period. The offending substance was Preterax, used for containing blood pressure conditions.
The information was issued by the Tribunal Sportive of the Belgium federation RACB on 20th February. It is not known whether this suspension will affect his primary manager work and no comment has been made by Citroen Racing.
Martin Holmes
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...61387710542982
That's really harsh...Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
WRC Regroup Podcast.
Seb Marshall talks to Becs Williams about how he came to be Hayden Paddon's new co-driver as John Kennard steps aside from co-driver seat. http://progressive.laola1.at/wrc/pod...Program_34.mp3
Agreed. Totally ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
He's suspended for 2 years on probation. Which means nothing changes until he gets caught again... ;) No big problem. It's quite common in Belgium to test competitors in rallies for doping, it has happened before with different drivers.
So can we read into the Matton affair, that he listened to the advise form here, took som pills, and that NOT and Matton is the same person, or not? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by danon
It really is not. A banned substance (that is used without federation permission) is a banned substance.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
If anti-doping is going to work, they need to be harsh.
They need to be harsh but not stupid.Provided Matton had the appropriate doctor's papers banning someone for 2 years is incredibly harsh.Plus he is not a professional rally driver so there is no real benefit for him to dope.TL:DR Matton gets absolutely no benefit from doping so punish him for that isn't really setting an example or hurting anyone other than himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Is that a banned susbstance? Was that kind of ban already expected for those who use that substance?
If yes, what's wrong with the decision of ban?
Of course I'm sure Matton is not trying to improve his performances but rules are rules and not taking a very important issue like doping seriously will lead you to very big problems with it in the future.
What his doctor's papers say is irrelevant. If he wants to compete while taking his medicine then he can apply forQuote:
Originally Posted by macebig
a TUE which is a Therapeutic Use Exempt. TUE:s are granted by the sport's governing federation not by the family doctor.
The problem with your reasoning is that you use different rules for different people.
IMO the rules have to be the same for everyone and you cannot allow yourself to biased judgement such as
"he is not a professional rally driver so there is no real benefit for him to dope".
Where do draw the line for when it is a benefit and where do you draw the line for when it is not a benefit to use it?
Where do you draw the line for whom it is ok to use it and for whom it is not ok to use?
ALL rules have to be the same for everyone, professional or amateur otherwise there is no point in having rules at all.
What kind of an advantage does that medicine give exactly?
Now, if Matton needs those pills, it´s because he has an heart decease, which demands him taking those pills every day. I know, bcs I´m there myself. Should he be banned from doing amateur rallying because of that? NOO!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
For those of you not on FB
Yves Matton:
You may have seen on the web a news saying that I am suspended from all licenses for two years. It turns out that it is incorrect and incomplete. At the end of the last Condroz Rally, I had a doping test which proved positive because of a drug declared during the test. The doctor prescribing this medication had failed to notify me that I had to apply for a Therapeutic Use Exemption (TUE) and I confess that I did not verify its composition. Recognizing my good faith and the fact that this drug did not improve performance, the sanction was reduced to a suspended sentence. I fully accept that decision. Drivers and codrivers, be careful if you have any punctual or regular prescriptions! Good weekend to all of you...
PS: You can consult the RACB document at http://bit.ly/2niiYDs
Everyone of the citroen team will be them blood pressure tablets after Mexico.
All rules are made by people...We just make them up out of the blue sky..The INTENT is that the rules should make sense and BE JUST.Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
All men are fallible..we sometimes make mistakes in HOW we state rules..
That is when another measure MUST take place..Justice..
Not that everything is exactly the same, but that we achieve the highest possible justice in EACH case..
That is why we have not just juries, but judges too..
What you suggest is all we need in the world are clerks..
In the end reality must be considered...
THERE is the problem.."doping" the word..The INTENT is that some substances which can increase performance in some way....Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Pharmacological action[edit]
Using a fixed combination of an ACE inhibitor and a chlorosulfamoyl diuretic leads to additive synergy of the antihypertensive effects of the two constituents. Its pharmacological properties are derived from those of each of the components taken separately, in addition to those due to the additive synergistic action of the two constituents, when combined, on vascular endothelium, arteriolocapillary microcirculation, and the target organs of hypertension.
That drug just helps his hypertension... It doesn't artificially INCREASE his performance.
By the logic of the hard ass interpretation, A good, hot cup of my favorite tea could EASILY be considered a performance enhancing drug..
No dogma
You can also think of it like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by BleAivano
Here is a slightly fat and very stressed team manager of a global Motorsport team who does one round of the Belgian championship for fun every year (and usually stuff it into a tree).
Did he
A) take blood pressure lowering pills to perform like a rally super human in order to steal the Belgian championship crown by winning one round
Or
B) take pills to lower his blood pressure from his weight and very particular stress inducing job and did the event to forget for a while that he has 100 000+ pairs of eyes judging his performance every day.
In my opinion the sensible thing to do would be to give him a friendly reminder that those pills are not allowed in the championship... but the actual measure was very very harsh in my opinion.
This is all nice in theory - but like BleAivano says when it comes to anti-doping you can't have one rule for one guy and a rule for another. You set bad precedents for people who are trying to break the rules. At the end of the day you are responsible for what goes in your body. End of story. For a guy who is not in regular competition it's reasonable Matton wouldn't know that he needed a TUE for that sort of medication. He's held his hands up. The suspended penalty reflects all that. How is it harsh? He's not banned from competing. A good lesson for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Not all banned substances are performance enhancing. Others are banned because they impair judgement or because they have side effects that will make you tired. That could be very dangerous when you race very close alongside spectators.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
Also keep in mind that drugs have a completely different effect on healthy or sick people. A sick person who takes his medicine will feel normal again, but a healthy person taking that same medicine might experience all kinds of side effects. That is why the TUE exists to determine who really needs that drugs.
Like with all rules you have to understand the intent behind the rule rather than try to apply it to everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Simmi
Even court systems manage to do this, so why can't a Belgian rally organization?
Well that may be, but in this case it is pretty clear this wasn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lousada
No sane person would do a rally on 150 mg of Ritalin but blood pressure pills literally just thin out the blood, nothing else.
A skinny calm person would feel slightly dizzy and no sane skinny calm person would take them.
Matton has got away with a slap on the wrist and he can still compete. You understand the punishment he was given right? They could have come down way harder on him but they didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
I understand where you are coming from but I'm glad you are not in charge of any anti-doping programme.
To be honest, doping rules should be abolished because it's more about who has got the latest drugs than being clean.
The drug he took, which I'm sure was prescribed, has only one effect, which is lowering blood pressure. It has literally no cognitive side effects and no "performance enhancing" effects unless you consider avoiding a heart attack or stroke a performance enhancement.
In fact the main side effect of the drug (actually a combination of two drugs) is A) a persistent cough and B) having to urinate much more frequently. So if anything it was a hinderance to performance.
So, so stupid to ban substances like this. I wonder, do they ban use of Tylenol or Aspirin as well? Hell, they don't even ban coffee or red bull, even though they have an actual performance enhancing effect.
Dumb, dumb, dumb, as usual from the classic mindless european bureaucracy that is the FIA.
Lappi 1st times tarmac test with Yaris Wrc in Corsica road, gallery photos => http://bit.ly/2nUgeie
I see you have never tried to deal with SCCA, Rally America, ARA, or for that matter the United States State Department's minions in the consular corps...Quote:
Originally Posted by sonnybobiche
you from New Jersey?
Quote:
Originally Posted by itix
THIS...That is why some places begin rules with a statement of what the problem is, and then everybody has a clear idea of what the INTENT of the rules that follow are intending to address..t.ex .Some people eat "Performance enhancing drugs or narcotics...therefore the follow rules are enacted to blah blah..."
Then you can see if the ENFORCEMENT efforts to follow the rule have net positive effects of not..
Recently the Canajian Rally Federation in the explanatory foreword began discussing the "ever increasing speeds" and spiraling costs in "Open Class"......
And then announced a) new turbo inlet restrictor rules where there had previously been none, and a complicated minimum weight schedule to b) introduce a minimum weight in the 2wd turbo class meaning any 2wd car with a turbo would be forced to add 50-100kg, find or make a restrictor and mod turbo to mount it, re-map....all in the class having only 3-5 cars nationwide...
The new rules had nothing to do with the stated purpose of the rules of addressing OPEN (that is non-homologated turbo 4wd cars) class "spiraling costs and speeds...
Rules must be internally logical.
And there must be some action called JUDGEMENT..
As somebody said...Take him aside and quietly mention that he must do the bureaucratic song and dance or NEXT time he'll get whacked on his pee pee.