It's 9 years how they're gone from wrc. last years were disaster for the team but anyway, I miss blue subaru color ;)
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It's 9 years how they're gone from wrc. last years were disaster for the team but anyway, I miss blue subaru color ;)
Great new edition of The Autosport Podcast with JML and David Evans.
https://soundcloud.com/autosport/jar...o-win-rally-gb
It's friday afternoon. I wish I had a beer. So does Juho.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DNJLSAAX4AIJm8p.jpg
90's boy band M-Boyz doing a ballad with the quiet boy Elfyn getting to do a lead vocal for a changeQuote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
After SS11 seasons stage wins by team.
MSport 71
Hyundai 71
Very interesting, but only for people that can analyze properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by KiwiWRCfan
Mikkelsen has now scored WRC points with 4 factory teams (VW, Skoda, Citroen, Hyundai) within 12 months. A record? Probably the guys in the 70's drove for many brands during a year...
Not to make separate thread, will ask here.
Looking now forward to visit at least one 2018 WRC event and seriously considering portugal.
Was here on vacation in october and really enjoyed the country, so why not to try and visit it again?
Veeery distant plan - arrive on Wednesday in Porto, get a rental car, drive down to Braga (or somewhere near, where hotel is booked), maybe recee some points I want to spectate,
watch as much rally as possible for 3 days and fly back on sunday afternoon. Or in worst case, monday morning.
What should I consider and take into account for rally spectating and accomodation?
I have some expectations about living and accomodation costs, also rental cars and fuel prices.
A Kiwi friend who went to Argentina, Sardegna & Portugal this year is raving about Portugal it is his pick of best spectating out of those 3 eventsQuote:
Originally Posted by tolx
Has your friend been to Finland? Would think that would be the best spectating / atmosphere...
not yet, but they hope to get to Finland in next few years.
Great choice tolx! Rally de Portugal is a fantastic event, besides it’s free to see and the living cost here is quite low (fuel is the exception) compared to North of Europe countries. There aren’t yet indications of ’18 RdP route, but probably it’ll take some of previous editions stages. You can get some info from last year’s initial pages topics:Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
http://www.motorsportforums.com/show...2017-May-18-21
http://www.motorsportforums.com/show...-Portugal-2016
Once we’re talking about spectating WRC events, the promoter estimations till Catalunya indicated Portugal and Argentina at the top, with 950.000 spectators each! Portugal and Argentina together gathered as many spectators as all the other 8 events (Finland included). Quite impressive! Btw, Portugal population is 10M, Argentina 44M.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/octob...2--12-12-.html
http://www.rallydeportugal.pt/Resour...ublico-wrc.jpg
photo: rallydeportugal.pt
I will go through those threads once again for sure. But realistically, how many stages could be seen per day? And what about nightstay location?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Would like to book that as soon as possible.
Shame we don't see the figures for all events separately. Also don't forget that number is usually all days combined, so someone who visits all 4 days could be counted 4 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
How do they count spectators on free to attend events? With other events you can use the statistics of sold tickets and rally passes, but free events ... impossible.
I'm hoping to do Portugal next year, though I keep meeting Finnish people who tell me their rally is the best. Perhaps some kind of cosmic hint? My wallet may well decide the outcome though :)
by lying...Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
The Finns aren't lying... ;) I haven't been in Portugal since it moved North, but I'm sure no other event in Europe will beat Finland in terms of spectacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jinu13
Or let's put it more politely, guessing. But you as the almighty god must know how many souls there were on the Portuguese rally stages. Can you give us the exact number? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by N.O.T
In Portugal, Argentina, Mexico, France, Spain, Italy and in all other countries where you can spectate for free, crowd numbers aren’t made up, they’re calculated by police forces or civil protection authorities, as those are trained to do it. For sure they aren’t exact figures, like the ones of a ticket selling (btw, in that case fraud can also exist), but they’re still a pretty fair indication.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franky
At Rally de Portugal case, the crowd enthusiasm has become its main asset. The move to the North was asked by Todt and Mouton, despite some safety risks. Portuguese public has managed to respond in a fantastic way and we can now proudly say that besides having the biggest crowds we also have impeccable spectator’s behavior. Many other countries can hardly say the same.
Portugal has the traditional 3stagesx2passes format. Without a motorbike it gets complicated trying to see stage 1 and 3 from each loop, as access roads are packed and you’ll have to spend a long time walking. In the current format you can realistically see 2 stages per day, plus Thursday SS (Lousada), Friday street stage and Thusrday morning fantastic Shakedown (Baltar).Quote:
Originally Posted by tolx
Still, as ’18 route isn’t yet known, we can hope for a change into a 4x2 layout and Porto street stage return. For accommodation, Braga is a good option and so it’s Guimarães (world heritage town), a bit closer to Fafe stages and to Porto/Matosinhos headquarters.
Yes but do they use the numbers provided by the authorities or the numbers provided by the organisers? Considering the source I think it is the organisers number. And then you need to know how are these numbers calculated? Stage by Stage, or Day by Day or the the whole weekend together?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Ken Block's Hoonigan Team raced Rhys Millen and Sara Price in Two Fiat Abarth at some Hillclimb in Mexico these days.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohY7Sn4qmlY
Imagine that Abarth in WRC * ___ * haha
They already are in r-GT classQuote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
That class could be more alive.. Then you only see sometime Porsche and that's it. And these guys at Fiat talks with big mouth how they would compete and show only on one event... And even there almost all crash... Alpine bring that beast into the game. Toyota too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
I said WRC, not r-GT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Norm75
Power, Aero, Wings, Sponsors....
WRC = World Rally Championship, r-GT is a class in the WRC, but get your point.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera
What class are Toyota Yaris WRC and Ford Fiesta WRC then if not WRC?
WRC class cars in WRC :)
WRC is also World Rally Car.
Nice new feature on Rally-Maps.com, related stages.
https://twitter.com/RallyMaps/status/932325727718035457
rc1 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by anttil
Was actually my suggestion to add that feature :)Quote:
Originally Posted by OldF
If anyone else is interested in special stages and rally maps, I recently started a blog about them. Of course, it will have a heavy weigh on Rally Finland but I'm going to cover all the current rallies and analyze their routes before the starts.
My latest entry is about the mighty Ouninpohja https://itgetsfasternow.wordpress.co...1-the-legends/
Nice blog AnttiL! Hope to see you writing about Fafe stage one of these days ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by AnttiL
Thanks! For sure Fafe is one of the iconic stages of WRC. I remember the tarmac junction and the jump all the way back from the 90's as a kid and back then we didn't have youtube or WRC+, we could only see some minutes of a foreign WRC event on TV if we were lucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
Most of you on here know me as rally codriver but I do a few other things. Here is the trailer to a movie that I did the stunt driving for. Movie is currently on release here in Australia and on the West coast of the USA. https://vimeo.com/241825673
Ray
Here's a longer version of the trailer. https://vimeo.com/235226019
Would you be OK if the electric RX cars (planned for 2020) are so good and so adaptable that they could ALSO become WRC's top class? I mean... you'd have to change some suspensions kits and set-ups... But "thats it".
The power would be there already. Manufacturers are kinda interested in the e-RX class (Bmw, Audi, VW, Peugeot...)
I wouldnt mind having WRX teams racing WRC and "vice-versa", since it'd be "the same car" (or something reaaaally close)
I dont know if the current RX/WRC are that compatible to race the other series, but with electric cars it looks pretty simple
Same was said about MotoCross and Supermoto. You change the tires and thats it (Not LITERALLY, I know.. but its way simple to do it, according to Alta Motors and KTM)
I was kinda fearing that WRC would have to revert to R5 cars as its top class cuz of the budgets and this economic crisis on the horizon (kinda like WTCC is doing right now with TCR cars.. that could be raced in EVERY TCR series on the planet) but I would enjoy seeing Electric Cars racing RX and WRC... IDK why but I like the idea.
I even saw someone suggesting they should MERGE and have Stages on Friday and Sunday, with RX on Saturday. That'd be one way to make WRC have "more promo" and WRX to have more respect among traditional racing fans...
Or whatever... Just talking cuz Im bored! Cheers
No. Never. It's not motorsport anymore. Electric cars are ridicolous idea and hopefully have nothing to do with WRC.Quote:
Originally Posted by giu canbera