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Originally Posted by TypeR
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Thanks, it's not easy but somebody's gotta do it 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
Weight transfer is most likely the biggest factor not aero. He came very sideways into the jump, when you brake before the jump just a little at that angle, the front left is bound to dive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rallyest
On the contrary some people are so overly smart that they can see the first video of the incident and can proclaim imidiatly that it was a car failure.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeR
How ironic, discussing rooky mistake in a thread for "Future Champion".
Tanak is made up hero, his fame comes from social media, rather than actual results.
I am so happy for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Crazy... another keyboard warrior. I don't know if you just woke up but Tänak is not a "Future Champion". In fact, he won 2019 WRC World Rally Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
And about the rookie mistake, we don't know yet. This was posted before but who didn't see or read, I'll post again. Urmo Aava, the organizer of ERC Rally Estonia, who went to the scene, told this to the rally radio: "I don't really want to comment, they'll speak for themselves. There was an opinion that the car made some strange moves. Probably some surprise with the differential. Otherwise, the pace notes and the driving line were correct." And believe me, he didn't ask from the spectators. And also, if he hadn't heard this from Ott, he wouldn't have speculated this in the media. The section itself is nothing special. Something happened before the jump, was it a compression/bottoming of the car which then unsettled it, we don't know.
Ogier went to Ford and made them champions. Tanak did the same without much success.
One time champ with superior car doesn't make you great.
well im thankful we have social media nowadays, otherwise i wouldnt have heard about this Tänak guy who hasnt achieved anything.
Once again makes you realise how unlucky Craig was..
Eh, it's a mixed bag. Ogier won in the Fiesta that was mainly developed by Tanak. And it's a possibility the easier to handle with larger performance window Puma we see in Fourmaux's hands today is a byproduct of Tanak's feedback from last year.
Grumpy man in bad mood..Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
If Tanak is what you said.. (don't know if u have bad memory or not..)
He was the first driver to break 15 year Loeb/Ogier dominance..
Tgen what about some of many drivers like Latvala, Hirvonen, Sordo, Neuville..?
But oh well.. :D
The Fiesta was the best car in 2017 and still a championship contending car in 2018.Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
The Fiesta was good right from the start, but I think the i20 was better. Thierry just couldn't handle the pressure during the second part of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by becher
Very OT but check which car finished at least second on any event that year. The Neuville-i20 combo was maybe the fastest on occasion but that doesn't mean the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Is there any news regarding next year as to staying with Hyundai or is it a bit too early to ask?
Where do you want him to go? Ford is not right option for him and Toyota has full house..Quote:
Originally Posted by Eli
Don’t want him to go anywhere lol, just asked if anyone here knows/remembers/has some information if Ott’s contract is up for renewal at the end of this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by CeskyOndra
Not knowing the details but as I have understand he should have 1+1 contract with Hyundai.
I know I sound stupid but I still haven’t given up the dream of him joining Toyota again. lol
Cyril saying here that Tänak has a contract with them for next year
https://www-rallit-fi.translate.goog..._x_tr_pto=wapp
Ott's succesful weekend at home:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9-kf...ozMm0ybm56aWdw
Damn differential, locked again on me.
Did you broke your fleshlight again?Quote:
Originally Posted by jparker
Ironic that he lost the title with his two strongest rallies, Sweden and Finland, both driving mistakes.
Sweden just 6 points and Finland 0 points.
I’m not either hopeful for next year. It’s clear through all these 4 Hyundai years they can’t get the car to his liking
No chance for Tänak next year if Kalle is driving full season.
Haven't Hyundai get some special jokers for next year, as they were crying so hard?
Yes they do, but who knows now how much they’ll invest in a car for their (now most likely) last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by deephouse
Interesting interview with Ott
https://youtu.be/ZgGamWwJ4Z8?si=WtN6VVi-VweRv985
It is done before Greece.
Has also English subtitles if others are interested.Quote:
Originally Posted by trykmann
Kinda Funny how he didn’t recognize the Rally Estonia stage by the pacenotes
Worst season since 2012?
So many driving mistakes, like too many
I’m keeping my hopes very low for 2025 at the moment.
I think the new points scoring system has added pressure to all of them 'cause all of a sudden they had 2 rallies in 1, and I think Tänak himself felt more pressure this year knowing that Kalle wouldn't do the whole season; Add to that being out of that car for 202. On the other hand Neuville knew this was his best chance to get his title and did everything he could to get it, and he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
I hadn't seen this video yet where we can see the deer jumping in front of Tänak's car. He really had no chance...
https://youtu.be/6WzNX64wiWw?si=AXGBO4iWoJXXVNO5&t=1648 I pasted it with timestamp but if it opens from the start then it starts at 27:28 mark.
I don’t know whether it was intentional or just a coincidence, but yesterday was Father’s Day here in Estonia. It felt quite symbolic that Ott chose that moment to let his family and children know that from now on he’s going to be home and spend more time with them (surely they knew beforehand, but I mean as a public announcement). Urmo Aava has said that Ott is away approximately 250 days a year, and being a father myself, it’s hard to imagine living like that. From that perspective, it’s completely understandable, and I’m genuinely happy for him.
But as a fan of Ott and Martin, I’m going to allow myself to be sad for a while. It has been a crazy ride, where we’ve experienced the lowest of lows and the highest of highs. In a way, I knew this day would come, but mentally I was preparing myself for the end of 2026. So although I knew it was inevitable, yesterday’s announcement still caught me by surprise, to say the least.
I think I’m going to write something longer after Saudi, once the first emotions from yesterday’s announcement have settled a bit. But for now, I’d like to end with a line from Martin Järveoja’s post: It’s been one hell of a ride… and I didn’t even have to drive!
Intresting to see what this does to Estonian Rally media and hype.
Rally Estonia will take impact anyway, because one thing is Tänak just driving there with one outing, but other thing seeing him challenging for WDC.
Estonian media also needs new clickbait personality.
And you gotta feel for estonian flag salespersons also :)
After winning the title in 2019 and all the struggles afterwards it always felt like he still had one more title to win. Reminds me a bit of Petter Solbergs last years with Subaru, where the car wasn't comparable with Citroen anymore.
Still even if Tänak doesn't compete anymore at all he has achieved already more than enough. With his raw speed, world title and 22 event wins he has written himself to the history books as one of the greatest and his talent will be remembered for a long time.
I think that from this point of view, there would be even more Estonians coming to Rally Estonia if Ott has only this one outing in 2026. They will surely advertise it as “Come see Ott for the last time” or something like that :D So all the people who have never seen him drive would want to come.
And it has already been confirmed that there will be an Estonian in a Rally1 car. Even if Ott doesn’t drive, I think most rally fans will still come to see him. (Virves, Linnamäe, or Jürgenson are the candidates.)
Well, my life just got easier. There’s no one left to cheer for anymore, so I’ll have more free time on weekends. My wife will be happy
Very well written and said, reflects exactly my thoughts and feelings.Quote:
Originally Posted by flat_right
I'm glad that I was in Salou in 2019 to witness winning the title with tens of thousands of Estonians. It was surreal to experience. Singing the national anthem when celebrating after the finish line was for sure quite emotional for the entire field.
But there have been every kind of feelings.
Back in the days without all-live and only radio coverage, when he drove into the lake in Mexico in 2015. Colin was the stage-end reporter; they did not have any information either, and when they got the info or assumption the car went into the lake, then Colin just said in the background, "oh dear..", for some time, everyone lived without the knowledge, are they were alive at all. Luckily, today we just have the TiTänak story to tell.
Another scary thing to witness was the crash in Monte Carlo 2020, crash in the local South Estonian rally 2024, or Rally Finland crash 2024.
But why do people like Tänak? It is his crazy pace on the fast stuff like Finland, Poland, Estonia, and some South American stuff as well.
Crazy rally win with Hyundai in Finland 2022. What actually makes this win crazy is the background information; Just before the rally started, he got really bad news on a family member's health and was ready to cancel the event and go back to Estonia.
As a rally fan, it is a sad day. As a human being, I wish Ott and Martin the best recovery and charging, to fulfill our news feed again with something new, or just enjoy their relaxed life if this is what they actually need.
Very well posts reflects my feelings too.Quote:
Originally Posted by meh