Rally History (part II)

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11th April 2008, 22:43
kabouter

Oh my, you're giving me some work to do, Reinhard :) Perhaps I'll have time tomorrow.
14th April 2008, 22:00
kabouter

Reinhard, all the Italian dates have been added.

Can anyone help filling in missing first names (or correct wrong ones) from Rally di San Marino 1990:
1 Michele Gregis / Massimo Ciceri (Delta Integrale 16V)
2 Carlo Morandini / ? Laurent (Delta Integrale 16V)
3 Giuseppe Bertolini / Giorgio Manuzzi (Delta Integrale 16V Gr.N)
4 Guido Novello / Alberto Milani (Sierra RS Cosworth Gr.N)
5 ? Canini / ? Gozi (Audi 90 Quattro)
6 Roberto Cimolai / Luigi Vazzoler (Delta Integrale 16V)
7 Marino? Baldacci / Enzo? Zafferani (Delta Integrale 16V)
8 Edo Ottaviani / ? Biserni (Delta Integrale 16V)
9 Stefano Fabbri / Massimo Zermini (Delta Integrale 16V Gr.N)
10 Roberto Zanghellini / Fiorella Ferretti (Audi 90 Quattro)
16th April 2008, 17:54
Loris A+

Help me with this result

3° Rally Città di Torino ??/?? 1988

1 Jaquillard - Jaquillard (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
2 Bertone - Chiapponi (Lancia Delta 4WD)
3 Rosselli - Ercole (Lancia Delta 4WD)
4 Roux - Corthay (Ford Sierra Cosworth)
5 Oguey - Idermuhle (Mazda 323)
6 ????-???? ?????
7 ????-???? ?????
8 ????-???? ?????
9 ????-???? ?????
10 ???-???? ?????

Help me find thi validity of this rally

4° rally città di Torino ??/?? 1989

8°Rally Valli Vesimesi 3/08 1986

5° Rally Nazionale della Lana Biella 5/6 Novembre 1977

1° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 4/5 Novembre 1978

3° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 29/31 Agosto 1980

4° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 5/7 Giugno 1981

5° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 11/13 Giugno 1982

6° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 3/5 Giugno 1983

7° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 28 Giugno/1 Luglio 1984

8° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 25/28 Luglio 1985

9° Rally Internazionale della Lana Biella 24/27 Luglio 1986

11° Rally della Lana 14-17 luglio 1988

12° Rally della lana 27-30 luglio 1989

21° Rally Internazionale della Lana 23-25/7/1993

22° Rally della Lana 04-06/11/1994

23° Rally Internazionale della Lana 21-22/7/1995

24° Rally Internazionale della Lana 18-20/7/1996

Thank you in advance

Sorry for my very very bad english :(
17th April 2008, 20:58
kabouter

Benvenuti al forum, Loris.

It doesn't matter that your English isn't great.

Here's what I have on the Rally della Lana since 1992:
http://www.rallybase.nl/index.php?ty...rallytype=Lana

I'll try to look up more this weekend.
18th April 2008, 15:45
Loris A+

Thank you kabouter ;)
24th April 2008, 18:31
ReWind

Joakim Roman's co-driver

@kabouter:
You have Joakim Roman's co-driver as Ingrid Mitakidou.

But if you look there you will find that her name is Tina.

BTW: It's her birthday today: 42 on 24 April 2008 (b. 1966).
24th April 2008, 21:06
kabouter

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReWind

@kabouter:
You have Joakim Roman's co-driver as Ingrid Mitakidou.

But if you look there you will find that her name is Tina.

BTW: It's her birthday today: 42 on 24 April 2008 (b. 1966).

She appears as both Tina and Ingrid on entry lists... :s Perhaps there's somebody who knows her who can shed some light on this?
27th April 2008, 21:01
kabouter

Oh, and by the way, we went past 1000 posts in the 'new' Rally History thread :D
30th April 2008, 19:48
Loris A+

Help me with this results and validity

12° Rally Città di Torino ??/?? 1997

1) Deila - Vischioni (Peugeot 306 S16)
2) Cantamessa - Geninatti (Renault Clio Williams)
3) Travaglia - Zanella (Peugeot 306 S16)
4) Ratiglia - Merlin (Renault Clio Williams)
5) Re - Adamoli (Renault Clio Williams)
6) ????-???? ?????
7) ????-???? ?????
8) ????-???? ?????
9) ????-???? ?????
10) ???-???? ?????

13° Rally città di Torino ??/?? 1998

1) Garosci - Piovano (Subaru Impreza
2) Russo - Pistarino (Renault Clio Williams
3) Gally - Orsucci (Renault Clio Williams
4) Morino - Miletto (Renault Clio Williams
5) Crestani - Perotto (Peugeot 306 S16
6) ????-???? ?????
7) ????-???? ?????
8) ????-???? ?????
9) ????-???? ?????
10) ???-???? ?????

Thanks in advance
30th April 2008, 22:32
rx-guru

Per-Inge "Pi" Walfridsson, father of Pernilla (as well as father-in-law of Petter Solberg) and father of Linda, * 1 September 1950

Lars-Erik Walfridsson, brother of Per-Inge and Stig-Olov "Stecka", * 1955

Info of the three brothers can be found here:
http://www.walfridsson.com/Slakten.htm
(For each one click on the name at the right.)
7th May 2008, 13:58
januszsz

Ogier

Does anybody know if Sebastien Ogier is related to Jean-Claude Ogier, who drove Citroen in 70's?

Regards
Janusz
8th May 2008, 20:37
co-pilootje

[B[I[/i][/b][quote="Wim_Impreza"]Please can someone help about Ypres Rally 1994?

I miss some codrivers in the results:
48 (122) Ghislain Penet - STEFAAN Vandecnocke (B) Citroën AX GTI (N2)
63 (123) Dave Cooling - MARTIN Saunders (GB) Rover Metro GTI (N1)

And i am also a new member here :)

Hello to everybody
8th May 2008, 21:32
kabouter

Quote:

Originally Posted by co-pilootje

And i am also a new member here :)

Hello to everybody

Welcome to the forum :)
10th May 2008, 08:58
rx-guru

@ kabouter: Did you get my email the other day or did it arrive in your spam box?
14th May 2008, 07:11
Wim_Impreza

[quote=co-pilootje][B[I[/i][/b]

Quote:

Originally Posted by "Wim_Impreza":2ac3epla

Please can someone help about Ypres Rally 1994?

I miss some codrivers in the results:
48 (122) Ghislain Penet - STEFAAN Vandecnocke (B) Citroën AX GTI (N2)
63 (123) Dave Cooling - MARTIN Saunders (GB) Rover Metro GTI (N1)

And i am also a new member here :)

Hello to everybody

[/quote:2ac3epla]

Welcome to the forum and thank you for your help. :)
14th May 2008, 18:49
C64WDU

Can anyone help? There was a Ford Escort Mk3 which competed on the 1983 Monte Carlo Rally. The model car box says its an XR3 yet the decals have 1600i with no RS. So what is it an xr3i or rs1600i, the car in question is #18 driver & co driver are Romain Feitler(Lux) & Jean-Rene Dubois(Fra). Also what was the reason for retirement.

Cheers
5th June 2008, 14:16

Great link Donney
5th June 2008, 21:44
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by C64WDU

Can anyone help? There was a Ford Escort Mk3 which competed on the 1983 Monte Carlo Rally. The model car box says its an XR3 yet the decals have 1600i with no RS. So what is it an xr3i or rs1600i, the car in question is #18 driver & co driver are Romain Feitler(Lux) & Jean-Rene Dubois(Fra). Also what was the reason for retirement.
Cheers

Well, I believe the RS1600i was homologated on 1.1.83.
Although it therefore was eligible, it is highly unlikely a private entry would have been that close after the homologation date. Works cars sometimes appear on an International days after homologation but it's all too difficult/uncertain for a private entry.
6th June 2008, 13:42
c4

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAL

Well, I believe the RS1600i was homologated on 1.1.83.
Although it therefore was eligible, it is highly unlikely a private entry would have been that close after the homologation date. Works cars sometimes appear on an International days after homologation but it's all too difficult/uncertain for a private entry.

RS 1600i made its debut on the 1983 Mintex 25/26 Feb with Wilson and Walker, Ford were making their comeback after a two year sabbatical, MCD prepared the cars.
7th June 2008, 15:07
RobertS

Hi to all.

I am Robert from Hungary.
I am a photographer, I like rallye history, especially Eastern European rounds in the 70s, 80s....
Here is my photostream - it is the begining only - few photos, results of Taurus Rallyes:

http://flickr.com/photos/26486522@N0...7604999560113/

Volan Rallye 1982:

http://flickr.com/photos/26486522@N0...7604997970582/

I will upload many more pics on the next weeks, I hope you will enjoy them.

Regards
Robert
7th June 2008, 15:18
RobertS

I am looking for infos Rallye Yugoslavia 1973.
Great victory for Donatella Tominz - Gabriella Mamolo Fiath 124 Abarth

I found this here on page 41:

1973 YU 4-10;
ERC 8 – 7. Rally of Yugoslavia 11-13 May
4 Egon Culmbacher – Ernst Werner Wartburg 353
5 Kalfried – Malsch Wartburg 353
6 Asmus – Meischner Trabant 601

Any more infos, other results ?
What happened with Pinto ?
He was the " 1 " with Fiat also.
7th June 2008, 18:17
urabus-denoS2000

Robert,very nice photos!!!I am always looking for photos of my neighbour countries from the 70-80-early 90s

There has never been an Rally Yugoslavia,you probably meant YU Rally...
7th June 2008, 20:14
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

Robert,very nice photos!!!I am always looking for photos of my neighbour countries from the 70-80-early 90s

There has never been an Rally Yugoslavia,you probably meant YU Rally...

Yes, you are right - YU Rallye

I have a lot of good photos - original negatives - YU Rallye 1973: start, drivers, cars on special stages, finish.....I am looking for somebody with same photos, I am working on an article....

Here is a photo, YU Rallye 1980:

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto...ujet378187.htm

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimag...-10_resize.jpg

1 - Ferjancz-Dr.Tandari, H, Renault-5 Alpine, 14212pts.
2 - Krupa-......, PL, Renault-5 Alpine, 14457pts.
3 - Szkurics-....., YU, ........., 14935pts.
4 - Chubrikov-........., Renault-5 Alpine, BG, 15004pts.
5 - Nikolov-........, ........., BG, 15378pts.
6 - Stohl-......, ........., A, 15431pts.

Do you know the other details of results ?

The YU Rallye 1980:
1560km, 19 special-stages(486km).
Very long tarmac special-stages, the shortest was 17.5km, the longest was 35km.
Snow on the tara-mountain, 13-16Celsius in mid-day.
136 car at the start, 41 finished.
7th June 2008, 20:21
jirka rk

I have TOP 10 :

1. Ferjancz / Tandari H Renault 5 Alpine
2. Krupa / Mystkowski PL Renault 5 Alpine
3. Skuric / Kuybus Opel Kadett GT/E
4. Cubrikov / Iljev BG Renault 5 Alpine
5. Nikolov / Mitkov BG Lada 1600
6. Stohl / Svanda A Lada 1600
7. Heimburger / Weitz DDR Wartburg 353
8. Zonta / Rupnik Zastava 101
9. Suster / Matelic Zastava 101
10. Vesnic / Vesnic Zastava 101
7th June 2008, 20:40
RobertS

Thanks jirka rk !

Short story of the 1980 YU Rallye:

First leader was the Gianello-Rorato duo from Italy with a Lancia Stratos.
2nd was Italian Filippi-Maffei, Opel Ascona.
On the 5th and 6th ss. Tara-35km, Ferjancz "hit" the Italians with more than 30s, and keep the lead up to the finish.
7th June 2008, 22:54
FAL

Quote:

Originally Posted by c4

RS 1600i made its debut on the 1983 Mintex 25/26 Feb with Wilson and Walker, Ford were making their comeback after a two year sabbatical, MCD prepared the cars.

Which debut? First rally of any sort (no one could ever really have that tied down exactly), first International rally, first UK International rally?
7th June 2008, 23:14
RobertS

Bohemia(Skoda)-Rallye 1981:

Do you know this team ?
7th June 2008, 23:15
urabus-denoS2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertS

Yes, you are right - YU Rallye

I have a lot of good photos - original negatives - YU Rallye 1973: start, drivers, cars on special stages, finish.....I am looking for somebody with same photos, I am working on an article....

Here is a photo, YU Rallye 1980:

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto...ujet378187.htm

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimag...-10_resize.jpg

1 - Ferjancz-Dr.Tandari, H, Renault-5 Alpine, 14212pts.
2 - Krupa-......, PL, Renault-5 Alpine, 14457pts.
3 - Szkurics-....., YU, ........., 14935pts.
4 - Chubrikov-........., Renault-5 Alpine, BG, 15004pts.
5 - Nikolov-........, ........., BG, 15378pts.
6 - Stohl-......, ........., A, 15431pts.

Do you know the other details of results ?

The YU Rallye 1980:
1560km, 19 special-stages(486km).
Very long tarmac special-stages, the shortest was 17.5km, the longest was 35km.
Snow on the tara-mountain, 13-16Celsius in mid-day.
136 car at the start, 41 finished.

Thanks to all of you guys!!!
RobertS you have very nice photos,is there a place on the Internet where I can find them?
7th June 2008, 23:16
RobertS

Bohemia(Skoda)-Rallye 1981:

Do you know this team(from Denmark?) ?
7th June 2008, 23:22
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

Thanks to all of you guys!!!
RobertS you have very nice photos,is there a place on the Internet where I can find them?

If your question is about these:

" I have a lot of good photos - original negatives - YU Rallye 1973: start, drivers, cars on special stages, finish.....I am looking for somebody with same photos, I am working on an article.... "

Those photos are " too good " for the Internet.
I will publish them in an Italan magazine.
7th June 2008, 23:26
RobertS

Bohemia(Skoda)-Rallye 1981:

Do you know this team ?
Possible Plas from Belgium ?
7th June 2008, 23:47
urabus-denoS2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertS

If your question is about these:

" I have a lot of good photos - original negatives - YU Rallye 1973: start, drivers, cars on special stages, finish.....I am looking for somebody with same photos, I am working on an article.... "

Those photos are " too good " for the Internet.
I will publish them in an Italan magazine.

No,I meant any photos from Hungary,Yugoslavia,Czechoslovakia,... from that period.
7th June 2008, 23:53
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

No,I meant any photos from Hungary,Yugoslavia,Czechoslovakia,... from that period.

There are very few photos on the Net from Eastern Europe(I think you know this):

http://www.krupa.info.pl/?rajd-dunaj,334

http://www.csatosracing.hu/htmls/nyi...?old=versenyek

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto...ujet378268.htm

http://www.rally-club.bg/ go to - Галерия - Album: Архивни снимки
8th June 2008, 11:31
urabus-denoS2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertS

There are very few photos on the Net from Eastern Europe(I think you know this):

http://www.krupa.info.pl/?rajd-dunaj,334

http://www.csatosracing.hu/htmls/nyi...?old=versenyek

http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto...ujet378268.htm

http://www.rally-club.bg/ go to - Галерия - Album: Архивни снимки

Thanks :up:
8th June 2008, 19:59
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

Thanks :up:

Do you know same rallye-forums in Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia like this:

http://forum.rally-magazin.com/viewt...2b62cdaaea8773
8th June 2008, 21:41
urabus-denoS2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobertS

Do you know same rallye-forums in Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia like this:

http://forum.rally-magazin.com/viewt...2b62cdaaea8773

That is the best one in Slovenia.

From Serbia you have www.gonzaracing.com

http://www.gonzaracing.com/forum/vie...r=asc&start=30 Photo with entry list from YU Rally 1984.

Some old photos at http://makaron.moj-album.com/album/5332420/
http://www.moj-album.com/album/5280785/
http://www.moj-album.com/album/5292234/

Enjoy
8th June 2008, 21:59
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by urabus-denoS2000

That is the best one in Slovenia.

From Serbia you have www.gonzaracing.com

http://www.gonzaracing.com/forum/vie...r=asc&start=30 Photo with entry list from YU Rally 1984.

Some old photos at http://makaron.moj-album.com/album/5332420/
http://www.moj-album.com/album/5280785/
http://www.moj-album.com/album/5292234/

Enjoy

Waooooo...!!!
Thank you very much!!
These are extremely interesting for me.
9th June 2008, 08:56
jirka rk

Rallye Škoda 1981

Hi, from official starting list :

No. 11 - MSC Calw , Hubert Theodor Schmidt / Jiri Micanek D/CS Mercedes 450 SLC gr. 1
No. 21 - Team HSH Vinduer Dore, Kristian Mulvad / Ivan Bjerrum DK Datsun Violet gr. 2
No. 18 - Boule National Rally Team, Willy Plas / Edy Nijs B Fiat Ritmo 75 dr. 2
9th June 2008, 11:33
RobertS

Quote:

Originally Posted by jirka rk

Hi, from official starting list :

No. 11 - MSC Calw , Hubert Theodor Schmidt / Jiri Micanek D/CS Mercedes 450 SLC gr. 1
No. 21 - Team HSH Vinduer Dore, Kristian Mulvad / Ivan Bjerrum DK Datsun Violet gr. 2
No. 18 - Boule National Rally Team, Willy Plas / Edy Nijs B Fiat Ritmo 75 dr. 2

jirka rk

Thank you very much !

Can you help me with No. 33 and 44 ?
(Any entry list on the Net like Barum rallyes website?)

http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=331jl4.jpg

http://img214.imageshack.us/my.php?image=441ig0.jpg
9th June 2008, 12:00
jirka rk

Škoda Rallye 1981

33 - Paul Erik Jensen/Ellen Syberg DK Opel Kadett GTE gr. 2
44 - Fyns Rallye Club, Jens Jakob Dynesen/Borge Jensen DK Talbot Sunbeam gr. 2

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