BBC vs Sky - The Story so Far

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Originally Posted by henners88

I didn't say they had adverts during the races now, I speculated about them coming in in future in relation to them going back on an earlier promise not to have the F1 channel as part of their sports package. The bottom line is if you are paying £30 or so a month for a channel, they really shouldn't be interrupted by adverts even if you could switch to an onboard camera for two minutes. That is unacceptable in the extreme, and for the sake of those of you who have bought Sky I hope it doesn't happen. I'm not bothered really just being polite. There is loads of crap on the BBC but I watch very little TV in any case, so what I do watch is being affected. I'm not really getting a return on my money and I'm considering not paying my license fee when I eventually move in to my new house as prosecution is almost impossible. I can't really agree on the 'at least we get a choice' line because I simply don't. My only choice is the BBC and its reduced coverage for half the season, with the alternative simply not being worth the price they charge. Its a no win situation for some of us.

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I'm not disagreeing completely with you henners, but just consider that Sky made F1 available to it's subscribers for "free". If you were already paying for Sports or HD then when they got the rights last year the extra F1 channel was added to your viewable programming but the subs stayed the same. They have gone up recently but that is just a reflection of them having to pay more for the Premier League because BT put in a competitive bid.

I'm not saying it's perfect, far from it, but now it is possible to watch a lot of F1 in addition to the pre-existing sports coverage for £10 week. It's a personal descision if that is worth it or not. It will be possible this year to buy a daily ticket for Sky Sports for £9.99 to watch online so you could watch all the races live without adverts mixing BBC and Sky online for £100.

I am getting worried that I sound like Sky's Marketing Director and that is far from the case, believe me

WT

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Originally Posted by wedge

Rumours spreading on the web that Georgie Thompson is being dumped from Sky.

Did a decent job for the F1 Show but won't be missed on weekends unless you're desperate to slap the salami post-race.

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I will miss those tight outfits
I'm not sure that she did anything wrong, I thought her work was decent
she seemed to make an excellent partnership with Davidson

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Originally Posted by truefan72

I will miss those tight outfits
I'm not sure that she did anything wrong, I thought her work was decent
she seemed to make an excellent partnership with Davidson

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I thought she did OK too.

Lets be honest I am sure she wasn't an F1 fan before she got the gig and so didnt know anything about it, but she did all she was asked to do, she asked decent questions to ex drivers and looked interested in the answers.

Oh and I am with you on the outfits to Truefan.

As long as she doesn't end up on the BBC F1 coverage this doesn't affect me one bit. The rumour is she is joining Jake over at BT for the premiership coverage. She seems to have a knowledge of football whereas F1 was something good to go on her CV.

Both of Sky's females are awful. Georgie always looks like she's just going through the motions of reading pre-prepared lines, and Natalie gives the impression of being more interested in shoes than tyres. They're both a county mile ahead of simpering dimwit Beverly Turner, but could both learn a lot from Lee McKenzie or even Louise Goodman, both of whom are proper motorsport journalists first and foremost.

Regarding adverts on Sky, I'd be amazed - not to mention disappointed - if they appeared during green flag running. That's simply not their MO, they don't do it with any of their other sports. They do currently drop a handful of ads into free practice, but you can still watch one of half a dozen other feeds on the red button so you don't need to miss anything.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Regarding adverts on Sky, I'd be amazed - not to mention disappointed - if they appeared during green flag running. That's simply not their MO, they don't do it with any of their other sports. They do currently drop a handful of ads into free practice, but you can still watch one of half a dozen other feeds on the red button so you don't need to miss anything.

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I was only speculating on adverts because its something they promised not to do from the very start just like they promised the F1 channel would remain free as long as you took out a HD subscription. Sky don't show adverts in other sports during live coverage but in regards to football there is only 45 minutes of play before a couple of ad breaks at half time. With F1 in a continuous 2 hours and I don't think its out of the realms of possibility for them to sneak adverts in during Safety car periods or red flags. I'm not saying it would happen but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised. It doesn't affect me either way.

So what's the situation do we have a definitive answer. My brother in law who works for Sky says that F1 is part of the Sky Sports pack for new customers from this year. And for existing customers from next year.

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Originally Posted by Mark

So what's the situation do we have a definitive answer. My brother in law who works for Sky says that F1 is part of the Sky Sports pack for new customers from this year. And for existing customers from next year.

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So those who initially signed up for HD just to get the F1 will lose it from next year unless they opt for sports, or did I misunderstand that?

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Originally Posted by Mark

And for existing customers from next year.

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If it's right then that sucks, but I can't say it's unexpected.

I'm sure many fans will stump up the extra £21 a month for the sports pack just like many will also leave.