Do You Know the Real Islam?

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

So are you suggesting that instead, we ignore all the horrible parts of religion and cherry-pick the good bits and get excited, shouting 'Look! That's religion!'?

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I was speaking very specifically about terrorists. I don't actually believe that a terrorist is a person with religion other than say, terror.

If we could still have quotes in our signatures, I'd have this:

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Originally Posted by Robinho

I can find no positive influence that any religon can provide, that a rational atheist cannot manage perfectly well without supernatural guidance.

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Originally Posted by henners88

I laughed out loud when I read this.. :laugh:

Seriously Bob that was lame. The fact you have a vested interest by being a member of one of the religions on topic suggests to me you are incapable of making an impartial opinion on whether you consider another religion violent or not. Also the irony of a Christian accusing muslims of being violent is rather funny. And we wonder why wars and conflicts start eh? lol

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Truth got to you.

The bias of your rhetoric is like a big zit on your posts.

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Originally Posted by henners88

Or what some Muslims do?
Do all christians picket funerals and plant bombs in pubs or just an evil minority? I think you need to be careful of your wording, especially if you are trying to convince people a religion promotes hate but ignore acts carried out by people of your own faith. You keep trying to compare how many deaths are at the hands of one religion, but I don't see this as a competition to see who commits the least.

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Give me the death tolls, for the past ten years comparing Christian suicide bombers to Christian suicide bombers.

If you do not do that, any comparison of the religions is bull-****.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

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If you have to ask the question then I doubt you will ever understand. Do you have any idea how big the universe is? Or how many species have existed before we have?



Looks to me like a submission of fear.




Do you always think as logically as this? Your last point is so ridiculous it does not value a reply.

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You cannot defend your rhetoric.

Typical prattle of an anti-religious bigot.

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Originally Posted by theugsquirrel

Like this?

A List Of Biblical Contradictions

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That site is the aniti-christian equivalence of anti-denomination heresy-hunter sites-- lies and damned lies because of either ignorance or simple hatred.

You can dig into these ancient books and find 'instructions" that are out of date or totally ridiculous and dangerous.

is there an App to bring us to the 21st century and get rid of these old inflammatory writings ? :rolleyes:

Deuteronomy 22:13-21 - ESVBible.org

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But if the thing is true, that evidence of virginity was not found in the young woman, then they shall bring out the young woman to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her to death with stones, because she has done an outrageous thing in Israel by whoring in her father's house. So you shall purge the evil from your midst.

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Originally Posted by Bob Riebe

You cannot defend your rhetoric.

Typical prattle of an anti-religious bigot.

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Well I did. You just chose to ignore it, possible because you can't defend your rhetoric. So once again - do you have any idea how big the universe is? Or how many species have existed before we have? Why would we -as humans- bare any significance on the 'creator' of all of this?

As for you claim about 'fallen angels' - something I could imagine the village drunk talking about - what evidence do you have for this? What you assert without any evidence I will dismiss without any evidence.

Why am I a bigot for just questioning your beliefs? If I said that I didn't want to share the Earth with religious people then that might warrant being called a bigot. But all I'm am doing is asking you to explain why. The same we do if someone has different political belief or taste in music etc.

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Originally Posted by race aficionado

You can dig into these ancient books and find 'instructions" that are out of date or totally ridiculous and dangerous.

is there an App to bring us to the 21st century and get rid of these old inflammatory writings ? :rolleyes:

Deuteronomy 22:13-21 - ESVBible.org

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It has been written in this forum, many times, that the New Testament fulfills the old and the laws, which were, for the Jews.
Jesus fulfilling of what was written in the Old Testament makes that verse moot.

Your bias or bigotry makes you bliind to that fact.

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Originally Posted by Brown, Jon Brow

Well I did. You just chose to ignore it, possible because you can't defend your rhetoric. So once again - do you have any idea how big the universe is? Or how many species have existed before we have? Why would we -as humans- bare any significance on the 'creator' of all of this?

As for you claim about 'fallen angels' - something I could imagine the village drunk talking about - what evidence do you have for this? What you assert without any evidence I will dismiss without any evidence.

Why am I a bigot for just questioning your beliefs? If I said that I didn't want to share the Earth with religious people then that might warrant being called a bigot. But all I'm am doing is asking you to explain why. The same we do if someone has different political belief or taste in music etc.

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You are prattling on with accusation and childish insults about Christian this, that and other things.
Defend your rhetoric with some sort of fact; whereas failure to do so simply amounts to blind bigotry.