Pirelli

Apparenty a rival company has been running an advertising campaign based on Pirelli tyres degrading quickly.

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Originally Posted by wedge

If that's the case then why didn't Michelin win the contract?

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IMO you are putting the cart ahead of the horses just for the sake of having a fight!
Anyway, how was the FIA supposed to know that Pirelli will come up with such bad consistency tires? :rolleyes:
And Michelin didn't win because:
1. They had a public spat with the FIA in 2005
2. Because they wanted to make only 18 inch tires, the same they use for sport cars like the ILMS ALMS LMS etc...

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Originally Posted by wedge

Define consistent tyres?

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Get a dictionary.

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Originally Posted by wedge

Pirelli to alter shape of rear tyres in 2012 in order to improve wear - F1 news - AUTOSPORT.com

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So, instead of saying the tires we have now are crap they say they make changes to further improve the tires! More hogwash! :laugh:

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Originally Posted by wedge

What marketing backlash?

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Read the press, watch the news, heck watch a race and listen to the commentary!

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Originally Posted by ioan

They were never supposed to supply tires that degrade quickly, it was just face saving hogwash for the gullible fans.
The teams most probably pushed all the time in the background for consistent tires as none of them wants to lose precious points due to crap Pirellis.
Also Pirelli most probably felt the marketing backlash due to the very inconsistent tires.

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I guess Bernie, Pirelli, Jenson, and a bunch of the fans started making up excuses before the fact?

Formula 1

That contains comments regarding Bernies desires and feelings about the Pirellis, including comments about not wanting too much durability.

Formula 1

That links points out that the softer compounds will improve performance at the expense of durability, which will make for more strategy decisions. Remind me how many F1 races had taken place in February?

Formula 1

Another article that mentions the importance of strategy and tire management. Button comments that it's "what everyone wanted". I guess Jenson was making excuses before the season started in exchange for kickbacks from Pirelli? :laugh:


Well before the season started Pirelli stated they were going to make tires that would require two to three stops per race on average. But they also made it very clear that using the softer compounds in an aggressive manner would cause more rapid degradation and more stops. It seems the powers that be that brought Pirelli into F1 for this season are happy with the outcome.

It's a shame Pirelli have felt forced into changing the rubber. Forgetting for a moment, the time worn argument, regarding whether or not they intended the tyres to degrade quickly, no one can deny the action on track that resulted was fantastic.

The fact that they are now building tyres that last double GP distances off the back of criticism from small minded fans (you know who you are) and bellow the belt advertising campaigns by other manufactures is saddening.

Ho hum; we'll just have to rely on DRS - coz we all know how fabulous that is :rolleyes:

Indeed. We had fantastic action at the start of the year, down to the tyres and that's now been removed.

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Originally Posted by airshifter

I guess Bernie, Pirelli, Jenson, and a bunch of the fans started making up excuses before the fact?

Formula 1

That contains comments regarding Bernies desires and feelings about the Pirellis, including comments about not wanting too much durability.

Formula 1

That links points out that the softer compounds will improve performance at the expense of durability, which will make for more strategy decisions. Remind me how many F1 races had taken place in February?

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Everyone was complaining back in winter and you think the truth is being spoken 3 months later? Then why do they feel the need for change if everything is so great for everyone?! care to explain it?

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Originally Posted by Sonic

It's a shame Pirelli have felt forced into changing the rubber. Forgetting for a moment, the time worn argument, regarding whether or not they intended the tyres to degrade quickly, no one can deny the action on track that resulted was fantastic.

The fact that they are now building tyres that last double GP distances off the back of criticism from small minded fans (you know who you are) and bellow the belt advertising campaigns by other manufactures is saddening.

Ho hum; we'll just have to rely on DRS - coz we all know how fabulous that is :rolleyes:

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You think that Pirelli are changing tire compounds due to 'small minded fans' complaining?! I hope you were joking!
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The pressure that brought the change is from teams and from the market, and that is what matters most in a competitive environment.

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Originally Posted by ioan

The pressure that brought the change is from teams and from the market, and that is what matters most in a competitive environment.

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Exactly, the market is made up of casual fans (like ones who only attended one race and didn't like the noise, bless) failing to understand that Pirelli aren't useless but were deliberately making less durable tyes following suggestions by the teams.

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Originally Posted by Dave B

Exactly, the market is made up of casual fans (like ones who only attended one race and didn't like the noise, bless) failing to understand that Pirelli aren't useless but were deliberately making less durable tyes following suggestions by the teams.

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:laugh:
Because those who are not casual fans would never ever buy Pirelli?
The excuses for Pirelli are hilarious! :rotflmao:

Pirelli are awesome, Paul Hembrey is the 2nd coming and I claim my £5