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...would be the first time since the 2wd Xsara, a car of a lower class, won a WRC event... I was thinking about such a possibility even for Sweden already - just imagine: heavy snow conditions, the Finns with problems with their all-new WRC Fiestas and French drivers just outpaced by...hmm...let's say local P.G.A. in a Fabia S2000?!? Theoretically can happen!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
I don't think that it can happen with current N/A S2000. The difference in speed to new WRC will be too big but with 1.6T S2000 it may be very small if rules stay like they are in the moment.
You will excuse me, but since the beginning i have doubts in believe that the SP will be a S2000 with a 1.6T engine...
And i still have all the doubts!
The future is WRC and WRC SP... there's no room to S2000.
The WRC SP is a downgraded WRC, the homologation come form the WRC, not from a new S2000.
How can we have a Mini S2000? :eek:
The new wrc cars are based on the S2000. The biggest diference is the 1600 turbo engine and the new S2000 models must be homologated with the same engine capacity, for example, the new Mini and the future Skoda that is already on development work.Quote:
Originally Posted by JAM
The Super Production cars, are the new S2000.
A S2000 is a 2 litre engine car.Quote:
Originally Posted by RICARDO75
Why call S2000 to a 1.6l engine car? There will be no Mini S2000.
Today someone talked to me about this, and told me that everybody is wrong... and is someone that you know :D
I don't know if they will be called S2000 but the new homologations for this cars will be the with 1600cc engine.
I think the "Super Production" was mentioned on the Prodrive website and not on FIA
Sordo confirmed.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/88814
Has there been info what are the six or so events Prodrive Mini will do? Starting with Sardegna, but then onwards...?Quote:
Originally Posted by Josti
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Originally Posted by JAM
I have to tell You that actually You are wrong. The thing is a bit confusing (more than just a bit :) ).
What Prodrive calls SuperProduction in PR materials of Mini is in fact S2000 1.6T (official FIA name for this class - see 2011 FIA App.J or Regional championships rules).
That's what comes to names, now about machinery. S2000 1.6T (or SP if You like) is practically same car is S2000 2.0 N/A except engine and it's devices (like intercooler). Even transmission is same (just new gear ratios).
And now to make it even more confusing we have WRC cars which are almost same too. They only have new aero and brake package and different engine flywheel. But otherwise these cars are same (at least their rules are exactly same - again see 2011 App.J).
So we have 3 different cars which are more or less S2000 - 2.0 N/A S2000, 1.6T S2000 and WRC.
Can You understand that now? :)
PS Sorry for not answering Your PM. I decided to answer here so that other confused people can see that too.
Thatīs what I understood also, and in a another topic I talked about all the confusion of new classes that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
How can we expect the media and public to understand the sport, when we, the very much rallyidiots not understand the rules?? :confused: :confused: