Renault get a 2 year suspended ban

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Originally Posted by SGWilko

http://www.autosport.com/features/article.php/id/2391

This article explains the reason for the jail sentence, among other little gems....

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This link is no good. You can only read it if you pay money, and I won't. :(

Those who have time can listen to the WMSC hearing and it's outcome here:
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre...0909_docs.aspx

Good night everyone, wherever you are! ;)

Why did Briatore not defend himself?

Anyone asking such a question does not grasp that THERE WAS NO TRIAL. Monday was a sentencing and anything said was in mitigation.

But too many people here in their disgusting eagerness and happiness at this are showing their ignorance.

Briatore is not an idiot, he is an excellent businessman who, together with Symonds, had their day of justice pulled out from under them by the French government aka: Renault.

This was not justice, it was a panicked corporation throwing the racing team management to the wolves - by accepting Flavio and Symonds' resignations - in the FIA in order to receive "leniency". You see Renault understand that the FIA is a reactionary authoritarian body that acts capriciously.

They looked over at Mclaren and knew a $100 million fine would collapse the team at least and probably every other formula they are involved with.

The sacrifice in order to appease was Briatore and Symonds - big mistake because the Renault team is finished. Flavio WAS the team.

And to replace him who? Alain Prost? God help them!

And Flavio? Does anyone here believe that this is the end? Briatore is within his right to seek redress through the European justice system and this could be extremely bad for f1. Flavio has nothing to lose and a man with billions to use can do a lot of damage.

The argument that Piquet acted on his own and the team tried to protect him but he used the secret to turn on Renault for firing him can be argued. You think it is far-fetched? Why? This entire case is based on what is essentially a map of technical readings.

There is an idea that perhaps Flavio can use his considerable connections with the billionaires around the world to start a different sort of sanctioning body.

The issue is that the FIA has acted yet nothing has happened to the team itself other than it has sewn the seeds of its own self-destruction.

This is not going to sit well and f1 looks like it accepts cheating - which it does as punishments are subjective.

It aint over and I hope Flavio wreakes havoc. Now that WILL be justice.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Why did Briatore not defend himself?

Anyone asking such a question does not grasp that THERE WAS NO TRIAL. Monday was a sentencing and anything said was in mitigation.

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Bla bla bla.

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

But too many people here in their disgusting eagerness and happiness at this are showing their ignorance.

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More bla bla!

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Briatore is not an idiot...

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Right, he's a scumbag first of all, one with a criminal record. :D

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Why did Briatore not defend himself?

Anyone asking such a question does not grasp that THERE WAS NO TRIAL. Monday was a sentencing and anything said was in mitigation.

But too many people here in their disgusting eagerness and happiness at this are showing their ignorance.

Briatore is not an idiot, he is an excellent businessman who, together with Symonds, had their day of justice pulled out from under them by the French government aka: Renault.

This was not justice, it was a panicked corporation throwing the racing team management to the wolves - by accepting Flavio and Symonds' resignations - in the FIA in order to receive "leniency". You see Renault understand that the FIA is a reactionary authoritarian body that acts capriciously.

They looked over at Mclaren and knew a $100 million fine would collapse the team at least and probably every other formula they are involved with.

The sacrifice in order to appease was Briatore and Symonds - big mistake because the Renault team is finished. Flavio WAS the team.

And to replace him who? Alain Prost? God help them!

And Flavio? Does anyone here believe that this is the end? Briatore is within his right to seek redress through the European justice system and this could be extremely bad for f1. Flavio has nothing to lose and a man with billions to use can do a lot of damage.

The argument that Piquet acted on his own and the team tried to protect him but he used the secret to turn on Renault for firing him can be argued. You think it is far-fetched? Why? This entire case is based on what is essentially a map of technical readings.

There is an idea that perhaps Flavio can use his considerable connections with the billionaires around the world to start a different sort of sanctioning body.

The issue is that the FIA has acted yet nothing has happened to the team itself other than it has sewn the seeds of its own self-destruction.

This is not going to sit well and f1 looks like it accepts cheating - which it does as punishments are subjective.

It aint over and I hope Flavio wreakes havoc. Now that WILL be justice.

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My goodness, what a load of tripe. I fully expect your next post to suggest that Briatore should overthrow all world governments as part of a crusade of justice.

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

My goodness, what a load of tripe. I fully expect your next post to suggest that Briatore should overthrow all world governments as part of a crusade of justice.

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Careful now, or he's going to type another post stating how biased and crazy we are for wanting a cheating race fixer out of the sport. But it's just due to our personal bias of course. ;)

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

My goodness, what a load of tripe. I fully expect your next post to suggest that Briatore should overthrow all world governments as part of a crusade of justice.

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No, that is only something you would say because as usual you say NOTHING but point your fingers at people here a lot.

Evidently you are a bitter individual disliking the folks in f1 and rejoicing at their problems, yet stuck in the past, attached to a driver that was a cheat par excellence.

You have my deepest pity. :vader:

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Originally Posted by Saint Devote

Why did Briatore not defend himself?

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Sleazy Flav did not defend himself because he was not charged. He departed Renault and therefore didn't have to attend the WMSC hearing where Renault pleaded "no contest". Flav maybe dishonest, but he is not stupid!! :rolleyes:

The issue is who will take over management of the team and how this changes the affects the decision of Alonso and Kubica.

Without Briatore and Symonds in the team, Renault are at this stage the least effective team.

Alonso will definitely want out as the only reason he is at Renault is because of his close friendship and good management that has guided the team to double world titles of Braitore.

I would expect Alonso a definite Ferrari driver in 2010 alongside Raikkonen - unless Mercedes makes Kimi a good offer.

Ferrari have no idea how Massa will be when he returns and that is only possible in 2010. So they could act like Enzo used to - replace the driver because of uncertainty and fire him - Enzo Ferrari was never sentimental over his drivers except Gilles.

But where does Kubica go? Renault HAS to be out of the question along with Toyota - how about Kubica to Mclaren? Excellent.

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Originally Posted by Valve Bounce

Sleazy Flav did not defend himself because he was not charged. He departed Renault and therefore didn't have to attend the WMSC hearing where Renault pleaded "no contest". Flav maybe dishonest, but he is not stupid!! :rolleyes:

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He did not defend himself because there was no trial - I have stated this in my post. Do not SPIN this story.....