Was Lewis passing Heikki legal?

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

That certainly supports the implied directive, but, IMO, doesn't make Ron or Mclaren a sneaky, two faced, back room scheming, bring the sport into disrepute, sleaze ball as Ioan would like us all to believe.

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i don't know why Ioan keeps repeating this same monotonous post...atleast i've been in this forum for maybe 4 years....the same topic gets dragged all over again...

well, this has been the most civil and level headed thread I've read in years ( for the most part) and I can only echo the general sentiment that this case and Brazil 2007 are benign and perhaps even legitimate uses of such an option, where the Rubens' cases were so blatantly obvious and unsporting as to herald in the rule in the first place.

There' will always be partisans who will defend their team no matter what, or hide behind the letter of the law ( rather than the intent or spirit). I for one am glad to see a good spirited conversation without evolving tolowly bickering... for the most part :)

I say one more thing...I dont know a thing what Kubica tells to Poland press, same with Barrichello and Massa to Brazil press. But Kimi and Heikki gives tv-interviews to finnish television before EVERY race weekend, after every practise session, before and after every qualifying and race. Also when they visit Finland they occasionally give a long interview. They can speak finnish, they are more open, its not the same PR-talk that they give to international media or press releases that are not even something that they have said!! They talk a lot about their teams, competitors, team-mates etc. And most of that, almost all of that, NEVER gets to the british media in english! Its a surprise to me, if even 1 (one!) percent of what they say to MTV3 reporters goes for english in Time magazine... ;) So how it is so difficult to understand that Heikki has said something briefly to finnish reporterters after the race when he was furious and frustrated?!

Yeah... I thought so too... :)

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Originally Posted by truefan72

well, this has been the most civil and level headed thread I've read in years ( for the most part) and I can only echo the general sentiment that this case and Brazil 2007 are benign and perhaps even legitimate uses of such an option, where the Rubens' cases were so blatantly obvious and unsporting as to herald in the rule in the first place.

There' will always be partisans who will defend their team no matter what, or hide behind the letter of the law ( rather than the intent or spirit). I for one am glad to see a good spirited conversation without evolving tolowly bickering... for the most part :)

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er this community is always level headed and civil for the most part... :cheese:

talking about the formula 1 community

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Originally Posted by Shalafi

I say one more thing...I dont know a thing what Kubica tells to Poland press, same with Barrichello and Massa to Brazil press. But Kimi and Heikki gives tv-interviews to finnish television before EVERY race weekend, after every practise session, before and after every qualifying and race. Also when they visit Finland they occasionally give a long interview. They can speak finnish, they are more open, its not the same PR-talk that they give to international media or press releases that are not even something that they have said!! They talk a lot about their teams, competitors, team-mates etc. And most of that, almost all of that, NEVER gets to the british media in english! Its a surprise to me, if even 1 (one!) percent of what they say to MTV3 reporters goes for english in Time magazine... ;) So how it is so difficult to understand that Heikki has said something briefly to finnish reporterters after the race when he was furious and frustrated?!

Yeah... I thought so too... :)

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Shalafi, we live in a global community now, where everything that is said , anywhere is always available for quotes and commentary, is posted on the internet, is picked up by web crawlers, is made known of instantly the world around. If he did make such a comment, the mass media and especially the hundreds of F1 sites would picked it up, talked about it, attributed the quotes to the original source, referenced the comments etc.

If I am able to read about comments the Force India boss has said to a local Indian paper, then surely a comment by HK expressing anger over "not being allowed to race" would have been a headline in at least a dozen media outlets.

I refer you to Occam's razor
"All other things being equal, the simplest solution is the best."

( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor )

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Originally Posted by harsha

er this community is always level headed and civil for the most part... :cheese:

talking about the formula 1 community

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yes sir :cool:

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Originally Posted by truefan72

If I am able to read about comments the Force India boss has said to a local Indian paper, then surely a comment by HK expressing anger over "not being allowed to race" would have been a headline in at least a dozen media outlets.

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Well, as you can see...this time global community wasnt as sharp as you thought... ;)

I think it may be a logical assumption that Heikki was more furious about his own performance than the team orders, because he really didn't have anything to gain with excessive blocking and would have dropped to P5 sooner or later anyway and finished there. And anyway, HK managed to keep LH behind him for longer than FM or NP. :p :

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Originally Posted by jens

.... And anyway, HK managed to keep LH behind him for longer than FM or NP. :p :

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Exactly! And I'm sure their "team orders" were "Keep him behind you" ;)

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Originally Posted by jjanicke

Exactly! And I'm sure their "team orders" were "Keep him behind you" ;)

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LOL