Max Mosley opens a can of worms.

How about those choosing neither of them, they can select nothing but to know how much people really care or not about this has the place to mention, being abstain probably including me.

Five voters as of now but no reasoning. They could want Max to go, but probably with different reason, such as it ruins reputation of F1, having five girls all at once is considered greedy, or because didn't share the girls :D

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Originally Posted by ioan

Going by your logics Bernie should have been the first to want mcLaren thrown out of F1 because they were giving "bad press for F1, the FIA, and bad news for his and FOM's finances".
However he did protect them against Mosley's wrath.

Bernie says he's Max's friend and so on, not even a week ago he was declaring war to Max! :rolleyes:

Bernie is the cancer of F1, even having a fortune of £ billions built on the back of F1 teams, some of them going out of business because lack of funds, isn't enough to the poisonous dwarf.

What Max was saying about the commercial rights negotiation with Bernie is the truth, and Bernie wants Max out in order to put one of his own men there to facilitate the terms of the new contract.

Max knows who set him up and his attitude towards Bernie suggests that the later might be involved in the sting.

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I have no love of Max or Bernie but be very careful what you write, even on a forum.

Unless you have proof that Bernie was involved, it might cause ramifications for you and the owners of this forum by posting unfounded allergations against "der management"!

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

I have no love of Max or Bernie but be very careful what you write, even on a forum.

Unless you have proof that Bernie was involved, it might cause ramifications for you and the owners of this forum by posting unfounded allergations against "der management"!

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What happened to the free speech everyone was protecting when it was about Martin Brundle's columns against Max Mosley :?: ;)

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Originally Posted by Malllen

Though of course this is all just speculation. None of us here are experts!

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I fully agree with this! :)

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Originally Posted by ioan

What happened to the free speech everyone was protecting when it was about Martin Brundle's columns against Max Mosley :?: ;)

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Max sued Martin.

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Originally Posted by ioan

What happened to the free speech everyone was protecting when it was about Martin Brundle's columns against Max Mosley :?: ;)

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Free speech is one thing. I agree with free speech and was a little dissapointed with Pino when he tried to curb this subject initially although I understand his reasons. His reasons I would imagine involve people making spurious accusations against some very powerful people in this sport.

While we can post opinions on what transpires, it is illegal to make unfounded accusations, is libelous and can lead to you or the forum operators being sued.

Not an arguement but just basic facts. If you carry on, the thread will have to be closed.

Nobody got nervous about having the forum shut down when I mentioned that half-wit has money on Max staying .
Is it only Bernard we should worry about closing the forum down ?

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Originally Posted by pino

Let's see what members here wants (poll added) ;)

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I vote "go". Not really a hard choice, as Max is now utterly incapable of doing the job he's being paid for.

However I've got a feeling that he'll survive the real vote :s

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Originally Posted by Dave Brockman

I vote "go". Not really a hard choice, as Max is now utterly incapable of doing the job he's being paid for.

However I've got a feeling that he'll survive the real vote :s

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I don't think that the role is a paid one although I would imagine that it's a position that can provide significant benefits ;)

I think Max will do a Gordon Brown and offer a last ditch compromise similar to what has been proposed. It is a moot point anyway as it is just a vote of confidence and as such, he is not compelled to step down should he lose.

He has said that he will not stand past next October but that is a long time in this game :D

Will he win? Lets look at the members.

26 Africa of which South Africa is only significant
15 in NA of which NA and Canada are only significant
10 in South America where Brazil is only significant
2 in Oceana where NZ and Aus carry weight
36 in Asia where you have the likes of China, Russia and Japan
Then we have Europe which is the real power-base.

The federation members who have made a formal written stance against Max reads like a who’s-who of significant FIA members.


America (AAA and AATA),
Singapore (AAS),
Germany (ADAC),
Finland, (AL),
Canada (CAA),
Brazil (CCB),
Denmark (FDM),
France (FFA),
India (FIAA),
Japan (JAF),
the Netherlands (KNAC),
Sweden (M),
Hungary (MAK),
Israel (MEMSI),
Austria (OEMTC),
Spain (RACC and RACE),
Belgium (TCB)
Switzerland (TCS),
Russia.

There are others that have come out as well from the FIA and many senior members within sport such as Bernie, the Manufacturers etc.

If these people follow through, he doesn't have a hope in hell.

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Originally Posted by Knock-on

Free speech is one thing. I agree with free speech and was a little dissapointed with Pino when he tried to curb this subject initially although I understand his reasons. His reasons I would imagine involve people making spurious accusations against some very powerful people in this sport.

While we can post opinions on what transpires, it is illegal to make unfounded accusations, is libelous and can lead to you or the forum operators being sued.

Not an arguement but just basic facts. If you carry on, the thread will have to be closed.

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Well if there is a chance for the site administrators to have problems than I agree that the mods erase my posts, cause even if it doesn't look like that I do like this forum!