Rallye Wrc Monte-Carlo 2013

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Looks like proper off in 30 km/h :-P I didnt know that VW is so fragile :-P

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30 km/h was the average speed of finished the stage ;)

Ogier tries to smile? :D
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Originally Posted by stefanvv

But that should be so exciting, isn't it?

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Well, part of my everyday work is to follow and study extreme events (their parameters, character and impact to nature and human). I can tell you that there is a thin line between excitement and stupidity. This is the line where we must admit that we cannot act against the mother nature and we must find the place to hide ourselves. I am pretty sure that during the third pass that line would have been crossed at some point (or location) and there is no need to risk with hudreths of thousands costing cars and with the health of spectators and competitors. They were already able to spectate two passes anyway.

Ostberg warned the spectators after the first run that he hoped nobody did anything stupid because the drivers didn't have control over the car... There is a limit to be drawn at some point.

But some people keep crying, maybe they need to open their eyes and think clearly for a moment.

The arrival of the winner!

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Well, part of my everyday work is to follow and study extreme events (their parameters, character and impact to nature and human). I can tell you that there is a thin line between excitement and stupidity. This is the line where we must admit that we cannot act against the mother nature and we must find the place to hide ourselves. I am pretty sure that during the third pass that line would have been crossed at some point (or location) and there is no need to risk with hudreths of thousands costing cars and with the health of spectators and competitors. They were already able to spectate two passes anyway.

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You're probably right, I just wonder if the line of stupidity wouldn't be crossed if they go in these conditions with completely unapropriate tyres (super soft, winter wo/studs)

EDIT: My point is - if VW can save the studs for the final stages, why couldn't others do the same :confused:

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Originally Posted by bluuford

Well. At NORF you have the possibility to use tens of alterantive roads for competitor access, ambulance, spectators. In Turini district you have basically three roads. One takes you to the stage, second
road takes you from the stage (and to the north) to the next stage and final road takes you from Monaco to the Col de Turini (highest point). When three people fells to the ravine and they need to be taken away by ambulance, another fells and also needs ambulance then you have already problem on how to get another ambulance to the district where normally only a few people lives and closest hospital is more than hour away with such weather. And helicopters cannot fly eighter.

+ indeed very, very extreeeeem weather.

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So tell me, why do they choose such stages then? Why do FIA want such a dangerous rally in the WRC if we those security problems even from the start? Just tell me.

Proper tyres for every possible weather should be a must i RMC. This time it was stupidity from the beginning.

Now goodnight everyone.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

You're probably right, I just wonder if the line of stupidity wouldn't be crossed if they go in these conditions with completely unapropriate tyres (super soft, winter wo/studs)

EDIT: My point is - if VW can save the studs for the final stages, why couldn't others do the same :confused:

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I believe when such circumstances could appear they should allow proper tyres from the very beginning, as well. I think, Bluuford, that the line in this case was crossed many times before the cancellation.

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Originally Posted by stefanvv

EDIT: My point is - if VW can save the studs for the final stages, why couldn't others do the same :confused:

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You believe that Citroen with Loeb cruising 3 days hadn t got proper tyres?If Loeb with his driving style had such a problem what about the others?