But isn't winning the manufacturers title more beneficial for the team, rather than the drivers title?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
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But isn't winning the manufacturers title more beneficial for the team, rather than the drivers title?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Would be great, how many drivers will drive a 2017 Fiesta this year!? M-sport buisines is going good i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Who knows, how it is with Ogier. WDC is definitely equally important as a way to keep him happy and in the car (2018), but logically if you make a strong team, spend a lot of many and get many grey hairs in the process, then i can`t see how the main goal isn`t man. championship. Especially in order to impress Ford`s bosses.
Why not? Alongside Hyundai they’ve the strongest driver’s line up and the Focus already proved to be one of the most competitive cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
On MSport team orders: it’d be naïf to think that in case Ogier stays in the title race during the season, Tanak won’t be asked to give Ogier full support, including slowing down, if occasionally he stays in front of the French. But the opposite would be a surprise: if the season doesn’t goes well to Ogier and Tanak gets in a better position to become champion, would Ogier abdicate one or two rally wins to give the Estonian a hand?
Maybe I'm wrong and the active diff makes them easier to drive, but I still think '17 cars are to fast to put on 2nd level drivers hands...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
I agree with you. They are too fast also for 1st level drivers hands...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rally Power
I disagree, surely Malcolm knows Ogier only went to M-Sport as it was a short notice decision and he didn't have a realistic alternative option where he would be guaranteed number 1 status. So I would assume Malcolm knows he may well only have Ogier for one year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
So if anything he will use that year to gain as much from Ogier as he can, including improving the car and the team with his work ethic, knowledge and abilities behind the wheel.
But further to that, if Ogier can bring them the manufacturers championship, that is Malcoms ticket to getting Ford back into the WRC properly. After all, when was the last time a non-manufacturer won the manufacturers title, it's been a while and that's much better PR for Malcom than Ogier winning WDC yet again...
To me, that has to be far more important, especially knowing he will probably lose Ogier at the end of the year to whichever team wants him the most/can offer the best package of role/car/money....
I see Ogier winning the WDC as the biggest publicity boost M-Sport can possibly get... (plus if they do that the Manufacturer's title might come also).Quote:
Originally Posted by Munkvy
But if M-Sport only win the Manufacturer's title and say, Neuville, won the WDC, who would be hearing about M-Sport ? It will all be about the new Driver's Champion and his team.
And given the strength of the factory-teams, no-one will think any less of private M-Sport if the dont win the Manufacturer's...
Malcolm Wilson:
"I’ve made no secret of how much we wanted to work with Sebastien and Julien, and it is fantastic to welcome them to the team. We have worked extremely hard to secure them, and they believe that the Ford Fiesta WRC is the car with which they can best defend their championship."
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Originally Posted by Tarmop
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Speaks volumes as to how much Wilson wants to impress Ford. I don't necessarily agree that he'll concentrate on Ogier and the WDC, I just can't see him being all about team orders either.
I might agree Wilson would appreciate more WDC than manus one, but not because of publicity or impressing Ford company, but because it was slipping away from him for so long, having the best driver in his team. He wanted Loeb, he wanted Ogier back in the years, now is the time when he has him to break a long break with Ford winning WDC. Manu title seems more likely when You have two strong drivers like Gronholm & Hirvonen, even against the mighty Loeb & Citroen. After all 2 is more than 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fast Eddie WRC
Anyway I believe current M-Sport line-up is strong enough to win the manu title. The rest is history.
http://www.wrc.com/en/wrc/news/march...8--12-12-.html
As expected, after Mexico, 3 C3's in Corsica, & 2 for Meeke & Breen in Argentina. After that, 3 C3's for the rest of the season.
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RUMORS: @HaydenPaddon - @JKCoDriver start Rallye #Sanremo with Hyundai I20 R5 @CIRally @HMSGOfficial
so Abbring with 205 at Belgium,and if this is true,seems he is finished at Hyundai.
For sure.. They let Delecour testing the i20 in Ardeche. And Loix tested with Chewon Lim..
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its not rumor. its official.Quote:
Originally Posted by dimviii
And there will also be a corean guy recently hired by Hyundai
he competed alreadyQuote:
Originally Posted by AL14
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C6F6_E-WAAAtCRV.jpg
He can't handle a 2016 spec WRC car, let alone a much faster version...Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre Oliveira
Who is Christian Riedemann, Pug 208 T16, did put some lead in the driving boots to keep up with an R5 Skoda?
Al-Rahji will probably have a 'customer spec' engine map in the '17 wrc.
Last year already, he was a Hyundai driver. Testing a lot and doing some rallies in an Adam R2 (Ypres and a few other Belgian and foreign events).Quote:
Originally Posted by AL14
Lim was doing well in Valais.Quote:
Originally Posted by dupanton
Riedemann did in the past even JWRC or how it was called that time when they used DS3 R3. He wasn't slow at all but had often troubles to finish without some major problems. Already last year he drove for German Peugeot but Kreim with Škoda was too strong for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeakiwi
He even did two events in the VW Skoda Fabia S2000 program if I recall it right.
Under normal circumstances it will stay this way I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mirek
Citroen's start to WRC 2017 season hurt by 'lack of preparation'
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/128413
Citroen technical director Laurent Fregosi has blamed a lack of preparation time for its worst start to a full-time World Rally Championship campaign.
The French manufacturer has struggled to make an impact on the first two rounds of the championship and lies fourth of four manufacturers entering this week's Rally Mexico.
Following a year-long sabbatical to test and develop its all-new C3 WRC, and in the wake of Volkswagen's departure, Citroen was among the favourites for 2017.
However its drivers have struggled to get the best out of the car in Monte Carlo and Sweden.
Craig Breen was Citroen's highest-placed finisher at the first two rounds, netting fifth in an old-spec DS 3 WRC at the season-opener and matching that in the C3 in Sweden.
Kris Meeke ran at the sharp end of both rallies before crashing and then being driven into by a non-competing car in the opener, and sliding off the road in Sweden.
"Our results in the opening two rounds of the season mainly come down to a lack of preparation on our part for the actual race conditions," Fregosi said.
"The situation will be different in Mexico, because the C3 WRC has done most of its running on gravel.
"For this, the season's opening gravel rally, we think and hope that we will enjoy better performance."
Meeke, 14th in the championship, and Stephane Lefebvre will be in Citroen's new challenger for this weekend's third round of the championship.
Breen will complete the recce only before returning to partner Meeke in Argentina, with Citroen to field three C3s from the Corsica leg of the championship in April.
Team principal Yves Matton said plenty had been learned during the squad's pre-Mexico test in Spain late last month.
"We questioned certain principles of the set-up and that helped us to identify the areas in which we can improve," Matton said.
"We are striving for a good performance level in Mexico.
"Given his [preferable] starting position for the opening leg, Kris will be trying to get among the leaders in the hope of kick-starting his season.
"Meanwhile, Stephane will need to go for position to score points for the manufacturers' championship."
they took whole year off and still arent prepared :rolleyes:
I'm sure someone here said that the season starts in Mexico and seems that Citroen boys listened.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
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It's not that they didn't prepare, they just prepared wrong for the first two events... Whether they prepared wrong for the whole season remains to be seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by EstWRC
Hayden to rallying with the new co-driver after Finland..
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Citroen barely did any testing for Monte in snowy conditions, instead focusing on more general tarmac testing that I'm sure will come in handy later in the year. Admittedly they should've tested more on snowy/icy conditions but Meeke was still doing OK before his off. However the fiasco in Sweden was baffling, the car looked undriveable from a lot of the onboard footage and the team acknowledged they hadn't found the right set up. They should be on the pace for the rest of the year though, the car looked superb on tarmac in the test videos and they proved in Mexico they have a good car on gravel tooQuote:
Originally Posted by GravelBen
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Seb Marshall?Quote:
Originally Posted by Arnold Triyudho Wardono
Most probably yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
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Seems the most likely choice, but they haven't said yet. The announcement said that JK will be retiring from co-driving but staying involved with the team.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Tough decision for them both but it had to happen sooner or later, he isn't getting any younger.
Too bad, I like John but I guess it's better to stop when he feels it's time to do so; also good that he'll be hanging around the team. On the other hand it may be good for Paddon and shake things up and help him take a step up.
That's what I heard was most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by dodge33cymru
Sounds like JK will still be involved, so i guess a straight swap between co-driver and gravel crew?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrJan
A bit more on Hayden & JK here;
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/motorsp...r-john-Kennard
congrats to Seb Marshall.............. he about to go for one hell of a ride from Germany onwards!!
https://www.facebook.com/sebmarshall...831604/?type=3
Neuville to Eifel Rallye Festival this summer with i20Wrc 2017 => http://bit.ly/2nrp04b
Paddon San Remo with Marshall + i20R5 => http://bit.ly/2mrlFjM
They are doing San Remo together in two weeks, WRC level 1st rally is GermanyQuote:
Originally Posted by smokingjoe
i am still not sure about the reason why they are splitting up? Anybody knows? Thanks.