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I can't see this happening...
If they decide to go for 3rd driver that is supported by Australian Hyundai, then why not. They can get 1/3 more testing data from rallies
Does Hanninen have a chance?
http://www.worldrallyisfree.com/2013/10 ... de-la-i20/
modified front bumper? (closed air intakes)
Any information about solberg for 2014.
Any rumors or something.
No. Please, just forget it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mohit
Solberg chose rallycross now, the perfect sport for retired people... :)
A new Solberg star is about to rise... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=608990355820221Quote:
Originally Posted by mohit
HYUNDAI WRC: Any word on the rumour Škoda Motorsport's Belgian chief engineer, Yannick Willocx, is joining Hyundai Motorsport?
http://bit.ly/19vXZkj
Test in Spain with Chris Atkinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGR9Wy4MJe4
Bouffier, Hanninen, Atkinson, Neuville and another. 5 cars, 3 test cars.
Most unlikely are: Dani, Mikko, Ott, Petter
Most likely are: David Higgins, Ken Block
Hyundai are keen on connections with their market.
When Michel Nandan himself said they will use only 2 cars how did You come to 5 or even 8?Quote:
Originally Posted by litifeta
Haha!! Would love Diggins to get a WRC drive with Hyundai, ain't going to happen though.Quote:
Originally Posted by litifeta
I don't actually understand your post at all?
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Originally Posted by makinen_fan
CA: So how much of it is a test of the driver’s abilities then?
MN: There are in fact aspects such as the differential performance and brakes that we are keen to test with different drivers, because we want different feedback from the various driving styles
This is a slight concern. If they were building customer cars, then fair enough bulid a car for various driving styles, but they are not. So build it to suit one driver, i.e. Citroen - Loeb, VW - Ogier.
But they don't have the possibility to test with a decent No1 driver that will lead the team as VW had with Ogier. I know someone will come up and say that Petter Solberg is available... :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Lol... So you think they develop a car for a certain N°1 driver, and nobody else can drive it properly?Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
http://m.smh.com.au/drive/motor-news...010-2va4w.html
Actually it says 10 cars. 6 for rallies and 4 for testing.
Neuville might be the one they look to for championship points, and Atkinson has proven he can get the bucket of crap Italia Mini to 5th place on numerous occasions.
Hyundai has buckets of money, one of the few manufacturers who are debt free.
Their venture into this is to sell cars, and build a sport car division so they can have a product to sell to young males. They will want names that they can use to sell cars, not win rallies.
They would be crazy NOT to talk to Block
You are joking?Quote:
Originally Posted by litifeta
Of course they want to sell cars but they also want to win, otherwise they will become a joke. Not sure the writer of the article knows much about the sport when he describes the 3 test drivers as "three promising young rally drivers" and " custom-made suspension" ....................
They can hire Britney Spears at this point. What are all the tests for? If they don't care about winning rallies...Quote:
Originally Posted by litifeta
Britney would be my choice. Miley Cyrus could be the in the junior team, navigated by Robin Thicke..............after rally party would be good fun.........
No, of course not. But why would you have drivers deveolp a car tht someone else is going to drive? Doesn't make sense to me if you want to win.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommeke_B
It reminds me of Suzuki, hiring Lindholm and Bernardi to test the car and do a couple of events in 2007, neither of which had ever won anything previously......then they put Gardemister and PG Anderson in the car for 2008?
I don't think anything Tajima and Suzuki did could be seen as a good example. Granted it was a half hearted, under funded venture but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
something you havent understant about rally cars testing.As you can see Neuville can drive much faster fiesta,even it ''didnt build it around him''Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Yes, but the same bloke is running Hyundai, Nandan ;) Probably irrelevant, just an observation.
On the other hand they might do a great job and build a car everyone likes, i.e. M-sport and the Fiesta.
Latvala has struggle to set the VW up to his liking - Ogier's car.
Sordo openly said, at the start of the season, he can't drive the Citroen - Loeb's car
No but apart from Burnsie got to grips with the Mitsubishi Evo - Makinen's car
What do all 3 of these cars/drivers have in common? They all dominated the sport for a period. Ogier has embarrased everyone else this year and will continue to do so. That is why I believe the car needs to be build around one driver to win the championship, and the others can suffer it and bring home some points for the team.
No, of course not. But why would you have drivers deveolp a car tht someone else is going to drive? Doesn't make sense to me if you want to win.
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something you havent understant about rally cars testing.As you can see Neuville can drive much faster fiesta,even it ''didnt build it around him''[/quote]
See my point above about the Fiesta! I also think the 206 falls into this catagory of car that suits all driving styles.
no is wrong mate.There are not cars build around a driver.Thats impossible.Plenty of examples last 30 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Cars are build around regulations.Each driver must find the right setup at EVERY ROUND.There is not setup for one driver.
I know a car is built around regulations, but thts not all....Example;
Ogier seems to like a car with more understeering tendancies.
Loeb seems to like a car with more understeering tendancies also.
Ogier was as quick as Loeb in the Citroen.
Latvala likes car with more oversteering tendancies.
Ogier developed the Polo.
Ogier drives the Polo faster than Latvala.
Latvala complains that the Polo understeers too much and can't get it set up properly.
Can't you see the pattern??
Anyway, more seat time always helps speed, therefore if you develop the car you're always going to be quicker in it than if you hadn't.....if you catch my drift.
each car you can make it undesteer or oversteer in 2 minutes.
At their level, mileage behind the steering isn t so major factor.See Neuville and Ostberg at fiesta this year?Loeb vs Mikko and Sordo?
the key factor is to setup properly for each event.This requires something more than to be just a good driver.
In my opinion You are wrong in many points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
For 4wd without center differential an understeering is natural behavior. It can be somewhat changed by geometry and diff settings but if You see Loeb or Ogier use more understeer it may be just that their driving is more natural for the car (and therefore more effective).
How did You come to an assumption that Loeb prefers understeer? The C4 WRC was one of only two (I think) active WRC with uneven split of torque between axes - more was sent to back! C4 asphalt center diff was 40/60 if I'm not mistaken and that was found very tricky by many privateers.
Please don't confuse things. More sideways action and more sliding doesn't necessarily mean the car is more oversteering. For example old Lada VFTS is understeering as hell and that is why it's driven sideways all the time. Otherwise it doesn't turn.
Do you have a link to some article? Seems that I've missed that...Quote:
Originally Posted by Doon
Neuville signed for hyundai? Rumours says so...
Rumours said that the announcement will be at Catalunya.
Has this video been posted before? Sorry if repost.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjCgBfApLyQ
A lot of black smoke out of the exhaust :D
good for his pocket bad for his career.Quote:
Originally Posted by skarderud
Rumours says the lineup is. Mikko Hirvonen and Cris Atkinson
Neuville should remain the Ford. It would be good to his career.