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30th September 2011, 17:53
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

i doubt mini will be in the sport for more than 2 years.... I hope BMW enters a proper car after that instead of just pulling out.

Wake up..... or change sport....
30th September 2011, 17:57
focus206

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Wake up..... or change sport....

:D :D :D good one
30th September 2011, 20:37
Allyc85

What a day for Mini :D

And I believe they are using a Mini WRC for course car duty on next weekends Cambrian Rally in north Wales :D
30th September 2011, 20:59
focus206

When was the last time someone else other than Citroen or Ford won a WRC round? Maybe Petter with Subaru in 2005, am I right?
30th September 2011, 21:16
Franky

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Originally Posted by focus206

When was the last time someone else other than Citroen or Ford won a WRC round? Maybe Petter with Subaru in 2005, am I right?

Grönholm in a Peugeot 307, 2005 Japan.
30th September 2011, 21:47
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by focus206

When was the last time someone else other than Citroen or Ford won a WRC round? Maybe Petter with Subaru in 2005, am I right?

don't be so hasty.....Mini hasn't won anything yet.
30th September 2011, 22:33
dimviii

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhRekTv2em8
30th September 2011, 22:40
focus206

Quote:

Originally Posted by N.O.T

don't be so hasty.....Mini hasn't won anything yet.

Of course... but it looks good for next years!
1st October 2011, 00:00
Plan9

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Originally Posted by BDunnell

I know it's early days yet for the Mini programme, but may I say how delighted I am to have had my instincts be proved wrong, and to see that the car is a competitive contender?

I don't like to gloat but I did say that this project was going to turn into something AMAZING!!! What is even better is that Loeb is not in the race so we will have some EXCITEMENT on tarmac for only the second time in a good while.
:D :D :D
1st October 2011, 00:03
Plan9

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Originally Posted by focus206

Of course... but it looks good for next years!

Now all that Mini needs is to get its gravel settings worked out and get Meeke up to speed!!!!
1st October 2011, 00:08
Plan9

Quote:

Originally Posted by focus206

Of course... but it looks good for next years!

Now all that Mini needs is to get its gravel settings worked out and get Meeke up to speed!!!!
1st October 2011, 07:22
Mirek

Meeke was six years out of WRC. He just needs to gain experience with recent events.
1st October 2011, 08:27
HaCo

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

Wake up..... or change sport....

Thumb Up! :D
1st October 2011, 09:16
Plan9

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Originally Posted by Mirek

Meeke was six years out of WRC. He just needs to gain experience with recent events.

+1 He is moving up the learning curve quite quickly though. I hope he does not experience any mechanical failures on this event!!
1st October 2011, 11:28
koko0703

Mini hasn't won anything yet, but it's so exciting to see a new team taking a fight against the chamiponship winning team.
2nd October 2011, 00:43
Plan9

I'm sure the best is yet to come from Mini & their dirvers. I don't know how it will turn out but the Sordo_Ogier fight is making for very good motorsport.
2nd October 2011, 14:18
Barreis

They need top gravel driver. Meeke is crashing a lot and Sordo is a perfect second driver at the moment.
2nd October 2011, 15:16
GigiGalliNo1

Meeke is learning... Who else is a top driver they can use/steal!? :D
2nd October 2011, 15:25
Langdale Forest

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Originally Posted by Barreis

They need top gravel driver. Meeke is crashing a lot and Sordo is a perfect second driver at the moment.

Somebody who can beat the works Fords of JML and Hirvonen should not be called a 2nd driver.
2nd October 2011, 15:59
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Meeke is learning... Who else is a top driver they can use/steal!? :D

Meeke doesnt seem to be learning, they blamed pacenote errors in Germany and for early errors in France, the final off looks like a pacenote error too, thats not good at this level, he may not have competed on WRC for a bit but he did all the recces last year did he not? I hope they can get it together very soon as he has great pace, hopefully GB will be good for him
2nd October 2011, 16:16
Barreis

P.Solberg could be the right choice. At least for one season.
2nd October 2011, 16:58
Mirek

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Originally Posted by GigiGalliNo1

Meeke is learning... Who else is a top driver they can use/steal!? :D

I believe that first Meeke is very important person in development of the car. There aren't many top drivers and designers in one person...
2nd October 2011, 17:05
Franky

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

... he may not have competed on WRC for a bit but he did all the recces last year did he not?

One thing is to recce and the other thing is to go through the stage at full speed ;)
2nd October 2011, 17:32
Allyc85

Didnt Ogier crash a lot at one point? How many people called for him to go?
2nd October 2011, 18:35
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by Franky

One thing is to recce and the other thing is to go through the stage at full speed ;)

really??? :D

Fair point Mirek
2nd October 2011, 18:37
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by Allyc85

Didnt Ogier crash a lot at one point? How many people called for him to go?

he has learned not to crash, people have been very restrained towards Meeke, he is a likebale guy and very quick, if he can get it together he could be a real contender at the front on any surface
2nd October 2011, 19:12
noel157

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

Meeke doesnt seem to be learning, they blamed pacenote errors in Germany and for early errors in France, the final off looks like a pacenote error too, thats not good at this level, he may not have competed on WRC for a bit but he did all the recces last year did he not? I hope they can get it together very soon as he has great pace, hopefully GB will be good for him

No, no and no. The only event in this year's programme for Mini that Meeke recced last year was Sardinia so every event is new to him. As for saying "he may not have competed on WRC for a bit" A bit? Two events in his career before signing for Mini, GB in 05 finishing 9th and Ireland where he did not finish. Forget about JWRC, no comparison in a WRC car. As for the SS13 off yesterday, driver error, simple misjudgement of the corner, caught out on the gravel and dust.
Lastly, yes, let's hope the remaining two events are good to him.
2nd October 2011, 22:14
Plan9

I think Meeke's crashes show that he is committed to being on the pace. This is very commendable as he is still a novice in terms of the WRC. I think that it is better to try and make the most of each rally as Meeke does then be like some of the other drivers and only go through the motions.
I am surprise that none of the current drivers have actually shown more interest in Mini. Petter would probably not get a Mini driver as there is alot of bad blood with Richards (similar to Wilson at M-Sport).
3rd October 2011, 00:34
m.lowe

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Originally Posted by Nornbugger

Meeke doesnt seem to be learning, they blamed pacenote errors in Germany and for early errors in France, the final off looks like a pacenote error too, thats not good at this level, he may not have competed on WRC for a bit but he did all the recces last year did he not? I hope they can get it together very soon as he has great pace, hopefully GB will be good for him

Let us know how you get on when you get your WRC car
3rd October 2011, 00:36
m.lowe

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Originally Posted by koko0703

Mini hasn't won anything yet, but it's so exciting to see a new team taking a fight against the chamiponship winning team.

Hasn't the Mini won on an Italian championship event?
did it not win the Richard Burns Memorial Rally
3rd October 2011, 00:54
focus206

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Originally Posted by m.lowe

Hasn't the Mini won on an Italian championship event?

It won an Italian event, but not valid for the National championship.
3rd October 2011, 00:55
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by m.lowe

Let us know how you get on when you get your WRC car

that is an idiotic post.

I'm fine with people being happy with Meeke, I wish him well, but I do think he hits cars a little too often
3rd October 2011, 01:00
Nornbugger

back to topic, its great to see another team compete at the front on merit, I'm pleasantly surprised at the way the Mini is progressing, I'd be surprised if it isnt good on wet UK gravel/mud too, Prodrive have a long history of cars working quite well there
3rd October 2011, 01:54
TyPat107

You almost have to expect Meekes crashes, he IS McRae's protege after all right? :D
Besides, he got in the habit when he was trying to put the 207 on the pace of the Fabia.

Can't wait to see what the Mini will do in Spain.
3rd October 2011, 02:33
Plan9

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Originally Posted by TyPat107

You almost have to expect Meekes crashes, he IS McRae's protege after all right? :D
Besides, he got in the habit when he was trying to put the 207 on the pace of the Fabia.

Can't wait to see what the Mini will do in Spain.

I think he takes Colin's mantra of "If in doubt flat out" very seriously. I mean, until he crashes or the car dies, Meeke usually set times that are comfortably within the top 10.
3rd October 2011, 08:24
N.O.T

Meeke is a fast driver...but he doesn't control pressure too well....Lets hope he improves on that because he has the speed to be on par with Sordo on tarmac and he is faster on gravel. But if he continues like that his future is not too bright in the big division especially if those very nice results of mini attract the attention of BMW and they want something more serious...

As for the car itself its in a good path, still slower than Citroen and Latvala showed it might be a bit slower than Ford as well...but next year if they continue from where they left off i think they can do more podiums and maybe on other surfaces as well.
3rd October 2011, 19:06
306 Cosworth

People seem to forget what McRae was like, oh and Ogier, and Latvala and many other blindingly quick drivers. Once again this forum shows how little people know and that they're just talking absolute bollox.
3rd October 2011, 19:23
N.O.T

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Originally Posted by 306 Cosworth

People seem to forget what McRae was like, oh and Ogier, and Latvala and many other blindingly quick drivers. Once again this forum shows how little people know and that they're just talking absolute bollox.

yes Mcare was like that....how many titles did he win ?? and how many manufacturer titles did the teams he was in won (none with ford and 3 with subaru and with citroen sainz and Loeb was the reason they won the title) ??

And lets not forget he was forced to retire at a rather early age.....
3rd October 2011, 22:53
Nornbugger

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Originally Posted by noel157

No, no and no. The only event in this year's programme for Mini that Meeke recced last year was Sardinia so every event is new to him. As for saying "he may not have competed on WRC for a bit" A bit? Two events in his career before signing for Mini, GB in 05 finishing 9th and Ireland where he did not finish. Forget about JWRC, no comparison in a WRC car. As for the SS13 off yesterday, driver error, simple misjudgement of the corner, caught out on the gravel and dust.
Lastly, yes, let's hope the remaining two events are good to him.

Hi Noel, could you correct Kris please, seems he thinks that it was an over optimistic note that caused the crash.

I incorrectly thought he had recced all events last year, seems strange to me that he didnt, its not competing but it still helps to build knowledge.

Yall get a bit prickly when any says anything about Kris, I think for this forum anything said has been very mild, there are a lot of people who wish him well, just some are more blinkered than others.
3rd October 2011, 22:56
ste898

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Originally Posted by N.O.T

yes Mcare was like that....how many titles did he win ?? and how many manufacturer titles did the teams he was in won (none with ford and 3 with subaru and with citroen sainz and Loeb was the reason they won the title) ??

And lets not forget he was forced to retire at a rather early age.....

Bull again from NOT

You are not fit too even speak Colins name.....

He is a legend and probably the most exciting driver ever

Part of rallying died forever with Colin!!!!!!!!

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